| Jakar Nilson | 17 Apr 2004 10:20 a.m. PST |
Hey, Bonjour, Guten Tag, Ohayo, does/did all the other naval forces of the world have "nationality prefixes" (don't know the proper term, sorry) like the Royal (His/Her Majesty's Ship) and US (United States Ship) navies? I'm going through naval sites, and can't find any of these terms, even for UK & US ships... Thanks, merci, danka, arigato...
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Wyatt the Odd  | 17 Apr 2004 11:38 a.m. PST |
If I recall correctly, its Imperial Japanese Navy (IJN) for the navy from Nippon. However, that may just be the Allied designation. I checked pages on the Bizmark & Prinz Eugen and neither of them seem to have a designator such as DKM (Deutches Kriegsmarine). Good question! Wyatt |
| tomrommel1 | 17 Apr 2004 12:00 p.m. PST |
Hi
There were prefixes in Germany during WWi I don`t now anything about WWII today there aren`t any in Germany.
During WWI The prefix was SMS for "Seiner Majestät Schiff"
Means his majesties ship. Thomas
The1/600Shipyard
www.thomasriepe.gmxhome.de |
| AndrewGPaul | 17 Apr 2004 1:55 p.m. PST |
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| Tony Aguilar | 17 Apr 2004 1:55 p.m. PST |
RN = Italy DKM = German WW2 SMS = German WW1 USS = United States HMS = British HMAS = Australian HMNZS = New Zealand HMCS = Canada Only ones I know from memory. |
| AndrewGPaul | 17 Apr 2004 2:04 p.m. PST |
also, HMNZS for New Zealand. Saudi Arabia also uses HMS, apparently. And naming conventions for UK, US, Japan and Russia:
link |
| Jakar Nilson | 17 Apr 2004 5:06 p.m. PST |
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| tomrommel1 | 19 Apr 2004 7:21 a.m. PST |
DKM was not used like HMS during WWII it only means deutsche Kriegsmarine nothing like Her majesties ship and wasn`t used together with ship names like HMS Nelson there was no DKM Bismark just Bismark. Thomas |
| RICARDUS35 | 21 Apr 2004 5:03 a.m. PST |
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| wryeone | 03 Mar 2005 11:21 a.m. PST |
I read once that the Netherlands used HMNS. Of course, if you aren't re-fighting the battle of the Java Sea, not so important, but... Have a look at an old edition of Jane's Fighting Ships - I recall they used to include the national designation. Of course, what library can afford those books these days? |
| HistoryPhD | 19 Oct 2012 4:35 p.m. PST |
Polish vessels were ORP. Greek was HHMS |
| Charlie 12 | 19 Oct 2012 9:31 p.m. PST |
Germany and Japan didn't officially use any prefixes (IJN and DKM were Allied inventions). Norway used HNoMS, Sweden HMS. |
| Pontius | 21 Oct 2012 9:10 a.m. PST |
France does not use prefixes but Free French ships during WW2 had the prefix FFS, for Free French Ship. I don't know whether this was just a convenient means of identifying them for the English speaking allies or if was used internally by the Free French themselves. |
| Gwydion | 21 Oct 2012 9:49 a.m. PST |
Netherlands ships are Hr.Ms. in Dutch and HNLMS in English |
| Thomas Nissvik | 22 Oct 2012 8:27 a.m. PST |
In Sweden it's HMS for Hans (His) or Hennes ( Her) Majestäts (Majesty's) Skepp (Ship). |
| StormforceX | 22 Oct 2012 11:44 a.m. PST |
This is a wonderful question 'cause I had never considered it before, just blindly placing IJN and DKM etc in front of the name on my ship labels.
Thank you Jakar for bringing this up. |
| Tirailleur corse | 17 Oct 2013 8:55 a.m. PST |
Beside the above exception already mentioned of the FNFL's ships (Forces navales françaises libres) from 1940 to 1943, french ships have not! One anecdot for our anglo-saxon friends;
Warships Richelieu and Jean-Bart, the very last two french warships, were tragically bombed by the allies in Mers-el-Kebir and Dakar.
On both ship, an un-exploded shell was found after the action: british on the Jean-Bart, and american on the Richelieu. Both shells were kept (desactiveted) into each officers mess. Onto the Jean-Bart, the officers of the ships have made the british shell belt engraved with the following:"Honni soit qui mal y pense."
Onto the Richelieu, the officers did the same with the US shell which was engraved: "Lafayette, nous voilà!" Hope never again … Cheers. |
