Slappy | 18 Apr 2010 8:38 a.m. PST |
Out of interest is there a major uniform change in the 18th century other than towards the very end with the French Revolutionary war. Thanks in advance |
Who asked this joker | 18 Apr 2010 9:06 a.m. PST |
Yes. Color and style all change. Uniforms become more "frilly". |
archstanton73 | 18 Apr 2010 9:45 a.m. PST |
Except in Canada where they became less frilly and far far more practical
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Rudysnelson | 18 Apr 2010 9:54 a.m. PST |
I agree with arch. I have been doing work on the French in the 1730s. In Louisiana, the French uniform became practical. There are notes that fatigue duty was done in sleeveless vest to save wear and tear on the coats. |
andygamer | 18 Apr 2010 10:08 a.m. PST |
I suggest you go to the Front Rank web site and look through the French ranges for the various eras. It will show you how the skirts were worn loose and of a fuller cut with large cuffs for the WSS era. (Of undyed wool for a greyish colour, BTW, for the French line infantry. Foreigners had different shades of blue for Germans; red for the Irish and Swiss; and brown for an Italian regt; dark blue for the French Guards--and the much-later Grenadiers de France and the Royal Grenadiers.) That the skirts remain loose but the coats become more tailored and with smaller cuffs for the WAS and early SYW. (When the coats become whiter.) For the mid- to late SYW the coats remain pretty well the same but the skirts are turned back (like everyone else's in Europe) sometimes with just the front skirts hooked back but more often with both skirts hooked up. And for the AWI the coats undergo a major change making them even more Prussian-influenced with much smaller cuffs, a tighter cut to the coat, skirts turned back, and now with lapels. I think they also started a complicated system of button numbers and layout to indicate the seniority of a regiment in its division but I can't recall it offhand. You can poke through here looking for different cuts of French coats in mid-century that also include different units' odd pocket or button layout and a few that had lace around the buttonholes etc. link |
Der Alte Fritz | 18 Apr 2010 10:12 a.m. PST |
I would have said that the uniforms become LESS frilly. As Andygamer says, the cut of the coat gets a little tighter by the WAS/SYW period, the tricorn is smaller as well. |
Slappy | 18 Apr 2010 3:22 p.m. PST |
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Graf Bretlach | 18 Apr 2010 4:01 p.m. PST |
The funckens 'Lace wars' charts the development of the uniform through the 18th C., uniforms generally got more formalised/regulated in most countries right up to late 19th C. Andygamers summary is good |
Slappy | 18 Apr 2010 6:04 p.m. PST |
this appear to be an awesome resource link |
andygamer | 18 Apr 2010 8:13 p.m. PST |
Here's a better source for the Mouillard plates, Slappy, although the colours are reproduced a tad too dark: link (The plates are under the "Planches" links.) |
Last Hussar | 14 May 2010 12:40 p.m. PST |
Is there anything like that for Prussians or other Alliance states? |
18th Century Guy | 14 May 2010 3:44 p.m. PST |
Yes, otherwise their clothes would be very dirty. |
andygamer | 14 May 2010 4:48 p.m. PST |
There are SYW Prussian uniforms here, Last Hussar, if that's what you're interested in: link And do you know about the NY Public Library's uniform plate collection? link |
Last Hussar | 14 May 2010 5:17 p.m. PST |
Sorry – just realised those are SYW – I didn't look at the plates closely to see they had turnbacks, and didn't spot the were for Louis XV, not XIV I'm after WSS. However good links Andy – they've been book marked, as I'm finding WSS on the NY site. Well done that chap. |
andygamer | 14 May 2010 9:42 p.m. PST |
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raducci | 15 May 2010 3:13 a.m. PST |
Waist belts. Worn outside the coat in the WSS and inside the coat in the SYW. |
docdennis1968 | 15 May 2010 6:09 a.m. PST |
A century is a long time for stability, so yeah things changed, sometimes subtle and sometimes more pronounced! Actully similiar to from Aug 1914 to Fall of 1945!! |