"EMPIRE and Stars*n*Bars available once again!" Topic

Far too much information :-/

Off topic, but not too personal.

Do you think the more we post, the more we erode?

We always use the Empire rules since it is required by copyright that if we use the old Empire nappy figures we must use their respective rules.

Otherwise, the Empire figures seem to rout off the table leaving only the Battle Honor and Old Glory figures. Some type of union thing…

They probably aren't French if they rout during an Empire game.

(oh, I said it!)

I am so ashamed of myself for being here.

Well his tirade is back up

Pot calling the kettle black.

It renders his signature motto all the more ironic, does it not?

Jeff (former War Event member, and victim of Reputatis Erodio)

Hey Pitts…erode this.

Do they ride bulls at a Reputatis Erodio??

I am so ashamed of myself for being here

You and me both.

You have been worn down to a nub, Jonathan. Too much time associated with me.

Eroded? does that mean my road has been taken away?

Should be e-roded. It is just on the internet.

We're on an iRoad….the rural paths outside of the mainstream traffic.

In reading about my 7-inch square Malplaquet project I've come across the idea of Jonathan Swift using satire to bring down the mighty Duke of Marlborough, by a stream of scurrilous pamphlets.

Amongst his writings was Gulliver's Travels with the giants and Lilliputians, as well if you look into it a number of other sizes and shapes of peoples.

This is as appropriate a place as there will ever be to announce the Open License Telescopic Space Concept, or OLTSC.

In full disclosure it was years ago described by C.F. Wesencraft, in an earlier and more limited form. He described the perspective difference between being up on a horse, up in a church tower, up on a hill, up in a helicopter, and up in an aircraft at 60,000 feet, and the difference that these viewpoints would have upon the commanders' view of the scene.

IIRC, he described it as the grand manner in his chapter, and since he personally liked multipliers of 8, his figures were able to change from 1:32 to 1:128 or 1:256 as desired.

Unfortunately a member of the 12th South Carolina borrowed my copy in August, 1976 at the Rockford re-enactment, and has not yet returned it, so I can't be 100% sure IIRC.

A very similar effect to what he described in 1974 can be readily seen by using Goggle earth or maps or other such applications, as with a computer click the distance up can be readily changed, the ground area appears larger or smaller.

In my rules
I have been experimenting with on the field perspective with larger figures to the front and smaller figures to the rear, ultimately after the greyscale painted 2mm, too far away to distinguish uniform details, disapppear in a puff of the color of cotton ball Napoleon recognized as a troop movement.

Before anyone else grabs it up, and seeing that the grand manner name has been successfully reappropriated for an equal and opposite use elsewhere, the Open License Telescopic Space Concept is released to the wargaming public and aspiring amateur rules writer for use as desired.

Mention and thanks ought here also be made of the -ic idea suggested by Royal Marine, but here changed to a slightly different usage.

Erode a pale horse.

Erosion=Pitts-ing?

Steve Miller
DFWIrregulars

Ow ow ow… Bad pun. No soup for you!

Goodbye thread…I shall not bump you again.

Mekein…..The 7inch square Malplaquet just sounds like an excuse for not painting detail!!!!!!! (Joke!!)--Sounds cool though--The sort of grand wargame you can play on a train!!!

Also remember in the opposite direction there are also fractals--the closer you get the patterns of nature repeat themselves to infinity…

Is there no-one who will put this thread out of it's misery?

I'm wondering if we should coat this thread in bronze and put it on a pedastal somewhere.

OK, Stop Posting!! Well that seems to have taken care of it! Heck that was easy! OK, send me a dollar if you want to post anymore on this subject! The boss said it was alright!

So what's this thread all about then?

Doh! I thought that this would start page 10.

This is just a poor man's page 6.

@arch

Yes, that's a major benefit. At the scale for that game the troops would have to be greyed out only a few inches away, due to visibility, so only need to be primed and not painted, until they get closer.

And in that scale not only can you paint them when they move within engagement distance, but can also repaint eliminated elements, because it dries quickly.

I tried to find a funny picture that deepfriedhappymice has of something very close to my game, but could not find it in there now.

If it was on a train, at that scale the back of the same car would be Paris, so you have the context of the whole campaign of which the battle really is a small but important part. I was thinking of having it at work, originally.

MC LeSingeDew, the thread is to announce that on a site linked to at page 1, you can for a certain price get PDF copies of Empire, and some other games. Then the OP made a few comments people found off-putting and poorly calculated to sell something, and it became a bash Empire fest.

And although I cannot in good conscience join their site, it is only because I cannot play the game without changing it, so I don't fit the profile they want. That only applies to me.

If you are the type of wargamer who wants to know about different rules, and how they work, I would not hesitate to recommend Empire as an important set which was a big hit especially in the eighties but still known and somewhat popular today. But everybody is not that type person.

In this thread many people rip on different aspects, including me on a couple, but I did not throw away my copy, I just regret a couple things about it. So I change it.

As to the OP, perhaps he has been punished enough for his gaffes from page 1, but I would not be surprised if this thread did not help sales and hits,for them, and I know at least a membership or two after all.

Listen to these guys, but don't listen to these guys, if you're curious go for it. I will probably check out LoG myself due to what I read here.

When I bought Empire I was only making five bucks an hour minus tax and he had them at 25 or 30 bucks even then. So..

And @doc

Sorry to add on, but the reference to the "fortified bog houses" is on page 80, at the end of Chapter 4, in Duffy's Fire and Stone.

Well once upon a time….

Ooh I love that one.

The never ending page 9

It never ends!

Let's put it on page 10

Ha! Ten!

And Bo Derek arrives…..

Where's the Botox?

there was a old guy named Pitts

Pant, wheeze. phew! That was a heck of a run all the way from page one to here.

there was a old guy named Pitts

Sounds like the opening line of a limeric!

There was an old guy named Pitts
Who swore he'd start issuing writs
He was selling his rules
But thought we're all fools
And gave up after ten pages of crits

Yeh, I know – must do better! ;-)

Do better? That was amazing AppleMak….

There was an old guy name of Pitts
Who came to the end of his wits
When customers fussed
Their queries he cussed
And threatened a furious blitz(krieg)

Yeah!!! Outstanding Applemak and WoundedKnee.

Any other laureates out there? :)

Is this a meaningless marathon?

I think the gauntlet's been thrown down…time to start writing limericks….

I wonder if Pitts was born in Nantucket….

An "EMPIRE" pusher named Pitts
Thinks all TMPers are twits;
"Why wont they bow down
to rules so renowned,
instead of giving me fits?"

I resisted posting on this thread until limericks were spawned!

Is this a meaningless marathon?

All marathons are meaningless. Though Pheidippides might demur.

no…in Dallas and used a dynamite stick for a….uh…no dawghouse for me! lol

A retailer of games named Gregg
To his website the TMPers did beg
With curses and threats
Its a pretty safe bet
His companys on its last legs

He he he, keep up the good work boyos!

The embers from this flame war seem to have died down into just heat & ash.

End.

Yes, the thread has finally ended.

BTW I just heard that EMPIRE and Stars*n*Bars are available once again!