| 50 Dylan CDs and an Icepick | 20 Mar 2010 7:36 p.m. PST |
Okay, so I've got this flag and I don't know what state it's from…. It's royal blue with white letters proclaiming: INDEPENDENT NOW AND FOREVER. Beneath that is an image of a woman holding up a banner. And that's pretty much it. I don't know if the image is replicated on the reverse side, or if there's something else. If I'm not mistaken, that was one of the state mottos of Alabama, but I can't see any other reference to Alabama (or any other state) on the flag. Any help appreciated. |
| Waco Joe | 20 Mar 2010 7:52 p.m. PST |
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link Not used for long but it is Alabama. |
| BrianW | 20 Mar 2010 7:53 p.m. PST |
That was the flag adopted by the Alabama Convention, and raised over the capitol after the Ordinance of Secession was adopted. The flag that the woman is holding says "Alabama" over a gold star. The reverse of your flag is also royal blue, but has a cotton plant guarded by a rattlesnake with the Latin motto "Noli Me Tangere" below it.
BWW
PS: If you'd like, I can send you a scan of the entire flag. It is in Cannon's _Flags of the Confederacy: An Illustrated History_. |
| Rudysnelson | 20 Mar 2010 8:16 p.m. PST |
Yes it is Alabama. The formal State flag was that. the reverse had a battlesnake under a cotton plant. She is holding up the battle banner that State and Alabama volunteer untis were supposed to carry into battle. It like the Florida battle Flag had a Yellow fivepoint star. The term ALABAMA was also in yellow over the star. There are several examples of the battle flag in county courthouses and the State archives. The flag is also illustrated on the 1961 State road map which I have. The map has the road network on one side and the routes of Union raids during the war on the otehr. |
| 377CSG | 20 Mar 2010 9:13 p.m. PST |
I have the book "The FLAGS of CIVIL WAR ALABAMA" by Glenn Dedmondt. This is the first flag showned in his book. His flag has the flag trim, lettering and star as "White". |
| 50 Dylan CDs and an Icepick | 21 Mar 2010 1:54 p.m. PST |
Sweet home Alabama…. so my hunch was right after all! Thanks guys. |
| Rudysnelson | 21 Mar 2010 2:24 p.m. PST |
Hatmaker the governmental flag should not be used as a battle Flag. The battleflag would have been the mid-blue silk of various shades fro mthe examples with YELLOW Star and Yellow ALABAMA. Could white stars had been used, yes. But comments seem to indicate a desire not to be confused with the Texas lone Star which was white. Most military institutions like depots and training camps flew the First national Flag well into the war, 1863 at least. |
| Rudysnelson | 21 Mar 2010 4:11 p.m. PST |
The Mississippi initial flag was the bonnie Blue with a white star. You can do a google check using 'Alabama Flag 1861' and check the images. Several items show both sides clearly with a mid-blue background. The battleflag in the lady's hand is clearly in Yellow. |
 Der Alte Fritz  | 22 Mar 2010 2:38 p.m. PST |
I wouldn't call him "Hatmaker". A week or two from now when he makes his monthly TMP name change, the response won't make any sense. I believe this is Sam. |
| Rudysnelson | 22 Mar 2010 3:40 p.m. PST |
DER ALTE BASED on his number of posts i thought that was him. If he wants to be hatmaker, ok. if he wants to change his name again to hide from somebody that is ok too. It may work for some people but not others like my office at the local EMA/DHS. We always know. LOL! If I had a popular set of rules out there I think I would want everybody to know it was me posting. |
completes a Confederate river ironclad.
