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Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP24 Feb 2010 1:29 p.m. PST

Guys,

I would LOVE to be able to make or buy a couple of wreckage shanty huts like these, where they use chunks of a ship's outer hull to make the curved roofs:

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I guess that, if I'm really at a loss, another option for coming up with curved-roofs for wreckage huts, would be to get one of these models and cut it up to make roofs for 5 or 6 huts (some from the top hull, some from the bottom one):

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Though I would still prefer roof sections that look like they came from the hull of a MUCH, MUCH bigger ship.

Any other suggestions???

Dan
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dandiggler24 Feb 2010 1:34 p.m. PST

Hit some flea markets, yard sales, or clearance sections for Star Wars toys. Mos Eisley had a few buildings made of wreckage I think. Somewhere on Tatooine in any case.

Toaster24 Feb 2010 1:48 p.m. PST

Large diameter thin wall pipe chopped up into pannels perhaps?

Robert

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP24 Feb 2010 2:12 p.m. PST

I think that, aside from the curvature issue, there's also the outer hull texture problem to overcome:

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That's probably why cannibalizing toy spaceships for their plate hull sections seemed like such a good idea.

Dan
PS. Check out the nice outer hull plate texture of the Polar Lights Enterprise NX-01 model:
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Tom Reed Supporting Member of TMP24 Feb 2010 2:17 p.m. PST

A buddy of mine cut soup cans apart and made round topped huts out of them.

Doctor Strangelove Inactive Member24 Feb 2010 2:29 p.m. PST

Town is like shades of the TV series Firefly.

Dropship Horizon Inactive Member24 Feb 2010 2:34 p.m. PST

Cardboard toilet rolls Dan!

1) cut to correct size/length.

2) Cut a second toilet roll into smaller sections, squares, rectangles, etc, for your hull textures. It already curves, so that makes it easy.

3) Maybe use some computer ribbon in regular patches.

4) Glue on in an offset pattern.

You only need to give the impression of different plates but if you have the time and mental energy, sure plaster the whole thing with 'texture' plates.

Cheers
Mark

Cosmic Reset Supporting Member of TMP24 Feb 2010 3:18 p.m. PST

Those could be done very easily from sheet styrene. I would probably start with .04 inch sheet (or maybe .06"), curving it slightly around a tube, then reinforcing the curvature with curved structural members also made from the styrene. Curved beam webs can be scribed into the sheet plastic with a pair of dividers and then snapped. the flanges can be added from Evergreen strips. Texture/depth/layers/panel lines can be added with additional layers of thin styrene, maybe .01 or .105 inch thick sheet.

Thanks for posting the link. Good stuff.

Saxondog24 Feb 2010 3:30 p.m. PST

I was going to suggest potato chip cans. They come in more then the usual Pringles. I've seen them in stores in a few sizes. Add some bits for texture and an interesting paint and aging look and … huts.

Eli Arndt Inactive Member24 Feb 2010 4:10 p.m. PST

If your needed a larger curve, try oatmeal, hot chocolate or drink mix cans. I already have several in my terrain box.

-Eli

Personal logo Mardaddy Supporting Member of TMP24 Feb 2010 4:13 p.m. PST

The old 1/72 scale Millenium Falcon model kit from MPC is chock full of hull to use for this purpose, though the look is very *busy* with piping and what-not; very few bare panels, but maybe that is an option you may want…

Eli Arndt Inactive Member24 Feb 2010 4:18 p.m. PST

OOOOOoo…Falcon salvage

StarfuryXL524 Feb 2010 8:46 p.m. PST

The Justice League Watchtower play set might be a good idea if you can find one cheap enough.

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Obviously that Amazon price is too high for something you're going to chop up, but you might find a less expensive one on eBay.

Any kind of big spaceship toy would work. I don't know how available they are, but some of the Bandai Gundam toys were the spaceships from the shows, and they were large enough to take sections from for shanties, especially if you're working in 15mm.

There was a good sized Enterprise toy in the line when "Enterprise" first came out. It had some nice detailing, too.

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Wow, those Amazon prices are crazy.

You could even check our dollar stores for cheap Chinese spaceship toys and knock-offs (just don't chew on them! grin).

Velbor Inactive Member25 Feb 2010 5:21 a.m. PST

For cheapness I'd be looking for old 1/2 empty paint cans (plastic) around the house to cut up into panels . Maybe plastic squash bottles for "ribbed" panels . Spaghetti , when soaked , makes good makeshift electric cable that can be woven over the surface , and dries hard . Throw-away razor handles provide handy support girders etc ..

Ravens Forge Miniatures Inactive Member25 Feb 2010 7:24 a.m. PST

Toaster and Irish Serb have the right idea.

Thin wall pipe, cut into section, then use thin plasticard for the Texture/depth/layers/panel lines.

I'd make the curved beam from 1/4" hardboard, to make it sturdy, with some heavy card or styrene strip for the flange area.

Use hardboard or ply for the walls of the hut.

if you use thin wall pipe for the roof, and plan just right, the roof could come off.

CAPTAIN BEEFHEART25 Feb 2010 7:43 a.m. PST

Since you are trying to reproduce something that doesn't exist, you have 90% of the problem solved. Durability and shape depends on the base materials (see above). There are a wealth of odd forms lying about almost anywhere.
As to finish-do you want airliner panels or Star Wars 'robot puke' exteriors. Styrene is good for panels but a cheaper alternative is squares of paper. Once glued, painted and dullcoated, they are Very durable. They also fit over any smooth shape.
For big junky parts-hey anything goes. Who's to say that (something busted) piece of plastic isn't an old force-field generator.
The fun part would be joining it up with the make-shift living quarters using whatever was salvageable. Sounds like a fun project.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP01 Mar 2010 12:25 p.m. PST

John Eaves' illustrations never cease to amaze me.

Check out these buildings made from sections of a starship (Terra Nova colony buildings made from pieces of SS Conestoga):

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Very similar to this (human refugee camp on Ceti Alpha V):

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Dan

AWuuuu Inactive Member01 Mar 2010 3:27 p.m. PST

Not quite shanty town but in Freelancer wideo game on one of the planets hull of colony ship was highscraper :>

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP01 Mar 2010 4:16 p.m. PST

"The journey to Terra Nova from Earth would take nine years at the warp speeds attainable in that period. The SS Conestoga was commissioned for the task, and was specially constructed so that it could be dismantled on arrival to serve as homes and service buildings for the colony."
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"Once the Conestoga reached the planet, in 2078, its modules were dismantled to form the colony's initial structures."
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Is that cool, or what?

Dan

Alfrik Inactive Member04 Mar 2010 8:18 a.m. PST

Er.. cut pieces from a 2 liter soda bottle, over lap for extra looks and paint? Much cheaper than buying model kits. Stick on some bits from the grand "Bits Box" of left over model parts and your all set?

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP25 Aug 2010 6:34 p.m. PST

Guys,

Check out what I just found:

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Dan

28mmMan Inactive Member25 Aug 2010 10:13 p.m. PST

Dan, I have often looked at some of the larger ships and thought they looked like big guns…so I would get a cheap toy gun, cut it at the "water line" and work with the cut parts as separate sections…dollar store, garage sales, and other cheap sources as well as cut sections of cheap PVC pipe.

The Good Will (second hand shop) usually has a some good choices for less money. A big plastic gun cut in half or on the bias could be quite impressive as I assume this is for 15mm.

Littlearmies19 Sep 2010 3:08 p.m. PST

Could the Airfix Saturn V model not be a good source of panels for something like this (assuming you can pick up a cheap one somewhere) – it's 1/144 scale but at 36" long the hull pieces should give you plenty of material for your shelter plus plenty of rocket engines etc for your spares box.

And how about those old favourites, beer cans? With some suitable detailing they could provide fuel tanks or towers of some sort. It would be an interesting subject for a model.

28mmMan Inactive Member19 Sep 2010 4:01 p.m. PST

That is a pricey piece of work…looks nice though… link most are priced around $45-55.

Beer/soda cans is a classic, easy to cut.

Again, I saw a couple big water guns that if cut along the right line would made a decent giant ship for a small amount of monies link

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP19 Sep 2010 10:53 p.m. PST

Hmm . . .

Could these work then?

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Dan

Lampyridae Inactive Member20 Sep 2010 7:33 a.m. PST

Papercraft of JAXA RVT, you could use this as a conical cargo lander-turned shed.

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Simply slap on some extra hull plates, apply a bit of weathering and Bob's yer uncle!

Actually pretty much anything conical will work!

28mmMan Inactive Member20 Sep 2010 5:00 p.m. PST

Dan while those water guns might work, why not check out the local sources? $1 USD stores, Mart-Wal, Good Will, etc..

I picked up 20 older cameras at the Good Will for $10…about 20hrs of fun taking them apart for lenses, tiny hardware/springs, gears, levers, etc..

Surely there will be something of interest.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP23 Sep 2010 2:54 p.m. PST

How's this for additional inspiration?

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Dan

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP10 Dec 2010 12:05 a.m. PST

Wow. Not much curvature here, but still awesome, don't you think?

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Dan

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP15 Jan 2011 4:45 p.m. PST

I finally got one of those Michael's 50% off coupons you guys are always talking about!!!

Now I plan to do nasty, horrible, despicable things to a beautiful model …

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The top and bottom halves are about 6 inches in diameter each:

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With that alone I should get enough paneling for my 5 or 6 huts. What do you guys think?

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PS. Not made using spaceship wreckage, but you get the idea:
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Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP16 Jan 2011 11:01 a.m. PST

I would LOVE to make panels that look as though they came off one of these:

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Dan

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP09 Feb 2011 1:07 a.m. PST

Guys,

This should be pretty easy to make, wouldn't you say?

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Dan

alien BLOODY HELL surfer09 Feb 2011 4:44 a.m. PST

Dan – a new sci-fi show from the BBC aired this week called Outcasts – about humans settled on another planet. When you see the whole settlement you can see the landing shuttle/craft worked into the town as the first building. I think there are some screenshots on line. It's certainly a program for inspiration along the lines of buildings you've been talking about. Of course, I should have just been enjoying the show instead of thinking 'Ah, Dan needs to see that, it's exactly the type of thing he's been talking about everytime we saw shots of the settlement' – damn you ;-p

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP09 Feb 2011 7:43 a.m. PST

Outcasts?

That sounds so cool!!!

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Dan

alien BLOODY HELL surfer09 Feb 2011 9:40 a.m. PST

It's not been a lot of action yet – and the planet isn't overtly alien, but the whole town is built around the original colony ship. I can't say what has happened so far as it will spoil it when it happens, but it does have some useful ideas :-)

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP09 Feb 2011 4:15 p.m. PST

Alien,

Awesome. I keep playing that behind the scenes clip over and over. I'm trying to sketch out some of the key containers and their relative positions.

Very cool ideas there, for sure. What I like most is that the container idea could work for both early planetary settlers and for PA survivalists too:

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Thanks,

Dan

alien BLOODY HELL surfer10 Feb 2011 2:57 a.m. PST

Indeed – and in the second episode you see an escape module from a similar ship – it could easily double up as a small dwelling for those that survive a landing…….

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP10 Feb 2011 12:08 p.m. PST

This pod?

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Dan

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP10 Feb 2011 4:00 p.m. PST

Better link: link

Dan

alien BLOODY HELL surfer11 Feb 2011 7:15 a.m. PST

Thats the one. :-)

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP13 Feb 2011 9:44 p.m. PST

Guys,

Look at the difference it makes to simply add a little bit of an angle to the walls:

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Dan

Battle Works Studios Inactive Member14 Feb 2011 6:59 a.m. PST

Those look terribly familiar to me.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP14 Feb 2011 8:28 a.m. PST

BWS,

Is that one of yours?

If so, a thousand congrats on the fantastic work there!

Dan

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP19 Feb 2011 12:46 a.m. PST

Looks like other artists have the same basic idea:

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Dan

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP02 Mar 2011 7:46 p.m. PST

Wow. Check out this extreme depiction:

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Dan

Eli Arndt Inactive Member02 Mar 2011 7:49 p.m. PST

Dan's bored again! grin

Seriously though, those are cool pics!

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP16 Jun 2011 6:52 p.m. PST

This might inspire those of you wanting to lay out your townt buildings:

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And if you want to put a mining complex nearby, this might provide some ideas:

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Dan
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Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP29 Jul 2011 11:13 p.m. PST

This is absolutely unbelievable:

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Dan

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP01 Aug 2011 10:42 p.m. PST

Guys,

How does this look?

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Dan
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Angel Barracks Inactive Member02 Aug 2011 3:11 a.m. PST

Not sure, I think it is a bit too clean (?) for me.
Very good quality just something not quite right for me.

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