Cacique Caribe | 22 Jan 2010 1:24 p.m. PST |
First, look at the image I presented on another thread: picture link TMP link Now, look at what Battle Works Studios produced, after just a few posts in the discussion: link As for size/scale, he says: "That piece is sized for anything from 20mm to 28mm, although guys on slotta bases will tend to lack headroom. Something similar could be made in any scale from 15mm on up, and a rough representation in 6mm." His question is this: "Now we just need to see if there's enough interest to make it worthwhile to produce castable versions. How much would you folks pay to avoid having to do the work yourselves?" So, what's your suggestion? Dan PS. I didn't want his beautiful accomplishment buried in another thread. I think it deserves a discussion all its own. |
CPT Jake | 22 Jan 2010 1:32 p.m. PST |
Lacking headroom for slotta based guys is a deal breaker for me. That is how my guys are based
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Bobgnar | 22 Jan 2010 1:43 p.m. PST |
This is a deed of tremendous creativity! View a scene day one, have a model ready day 2. An excellent offering for the post-apoc off-world guys. I do not see it as a problem that 28mm on tall base do not fit under the roofs, as really no need to go "inside." |
Dr Mathias | 22 Jan 2010 1:46 p.m. PST |
Nice job, it really doesn't look like just another contemporary 21st century shanty. |
Altius | 22 Jan 2010 2:41 p.m. PST |
I like it! I can see a whole table full of these, making up a huge maze-like bazaar. I think I would add a couple of millimeters to the height though, just to make the slotta-base guys happy. After all, a major segment of sci-fi figures are mounted on them. |
Cacique Caribe | 22 Jan 2010 2:44 p.m. PST |
Bob: "View a scene day one, have a model ready day 2." You noticed that, didn't you? In fact, that is one of the reasons I am so impressed. To go from picture, to adapted concept, to execution. It would take me a long time to get from each of those stages to the next. Dan |
Goldwyrm | 22 Jan 2010 2:46 p.m. PST |
Jeff makes great stuff. I've got his sandbag set and several bunkers for 28mm WWII and Weird WWII games. I like this piece very much too. How much would you folks pay to avoid having to do the work yourselves? Well
I really enjoy making my own terrain and spend more of my money on miniatures, so I might be the wrong person to answer. Jeff should charge what makes sense for him to make money. If it ends up too much for me to impulse buy over figures, then I'd put it on my Christmas and birthday gift registry. |
Ed the Two Hour Wargames guy | 22 Jan 2010 2:53 p.m. PST |
How much would you folks pay to avoid having to do the work yourselves? Odd way to phrase it. I would have to consider how much I would pay once I saw it finished. |
Battle Works Studios | 22 Jan 2010 3:49 p.m. PST |
Thanks to all who liked the work. Addressing some specific points: Lacking headroom for slotta based guys is a deal breaker for me. That is how my guys are based
This is just a prototype, a proof of concept piece, and we weren't being quite as careful about scale and test-fitting figures as we would be for production pieces. If we do decide to make something similar in castable form, rest assured that they'll fit slotta-based figs comfortably. Odd way to phrase it. I would have to consider how much I would pay once I saw it finished. We're not planning on selling this exact piece, we're debating whether something visually similar would be economically feasible to produce and sell in resin. The parent thread for this idea is chock full of discussion on how to make DIY shanty towns on the cheap. So the only way we can expect to sell resin ones is if people think the quality and convenience is worth enough to them to pay resin prices. We estimate that something very roughly that size and shape would cost us enough to produce in resin that we'd have to charge between $12 USD and $15. USD The question is, how many of you would buy at that price point? That's really all we're asking. Not looking for commitment or preorders, just doing market research before we start making molds. |
Cacique Caribe | 22 Jan 2010 3:59 p.m. PST |
BWS: "We estimate that something very roughly that size and shape would cost us enough to produce in resin that we'd have to charge between $12 USD USD and $15. USD USD The question is, how many of you would buy at that price point?" I would definitely buy them at that rate! I would start with 15mm, though. Dan |
28mmMan | 22 Jan 2010 4:02 p.m. PST |
I would think a full size piece like that at $12-15 would be a good price range
based upon the subject matter, most people would want 3-5
I would consider a break point for those
$15 each
3 for $13.50 USD each ($40.50)
5 for $12 USD each ($60). Most people interested in the product will want several so if you are asking, I think a package offering will bring the best opportunity for all parties there unto. |
RACDVM | 22 Jan 2010 4:09 p.m. PST |
I would certainly buy them at that price. |
Madzerker | 22 Jan 2010 4:29 p.m. PST |
I would buy at that price, and the more variety you made the more I would want to buy, hate only having one piece with nothing else that matches it. |
Grumpy Monkey | 22 Jan 2010 4:30 p.m. PST |
Now we just need them in 15mm :) then I am in for oh at least 8 |
CPT Jake | 22 Jan 2010 4:38 p.m. PST |
If my figures fit I could see buying a couple, but the purchase would most likely be after an upcoming move this summer. Jake |
Parzival | 22 Jan 2010 5:15 p.m. PST |
Not my genre or kind of thing, but I think a $12-$15 price range for a well-designed piece of terrain is spot on. Basically, if a piece of terrain is under $20 USD (heck, even $25), it falls into my "
hmmm
I can swing that
" category. Things still depend upon quality, appearance and utility, of course, but at your price I'd be taking a long look, and if I did post-apoc gaming, I'd be very likely to buy. |
Cacique Caribe | 22 Jan 2010 5:33 p.m. PST |
Madzerker: "the more variety you made the more I would want to buy, hate only having one piece with nothing else that matches it" I agree with you completely. A set of 3 or 4 different pieces would be a hot seller. Particularly if they can fit into a small group, some back to back, as in the middle of a square. Dan |
Battle Works Studios | 22 Jan 2010 5:42 p.m. PST |
How about modular build your own types as an alternative to pre-assembled "blocks" of shanties? See "Plan B" over here: TMP link We're still trying to decide which to do, or if both might be a good idea. Your feedback will probably decide the issue. Edit: And yes, we're also considering 15mm scale, which will probably be a bit cheaper, or cover a larger (but flatter) footprint on the table for the same cost. If we do either (which is looking likely) we'll probably do both eventually, especially if initial sales are good. |
ComradeCommissar | 22 Jan 2010 6:04 p.m. PST |
that price sounds reasonable enough that I'd buy two or three. |
gavandjosh02 | 22 Jan 2010 6:40 p.m. PST |
I would take 5 (depending on postage to Australia). I really like what you have done. Suits a postapoc settlement I intend to build. |
Goldwyrm | 22 Jan 2010 7:02 p.m. PST |
We estimate that something very roughly that size and shape would cost us enough to produce in resin that we'd have to charge between $12 USD USD and $15. USD USD The question is, how many of you would buy at that price point? I was thinking the price point would have been in the $30+ range each. At your given price, I'd probably pick up around 5, although depending on my mood perhaps more. I like the idea of variation in the form of modular design. The integrated pipes are cool for a single building, but I wouldn't want them all to look that way. |
Cosmic Reset | 22 Jan 2010 7:05 p.m. PST |
The price strikes me as particularly reasonable, and the quality is obviously wonderful. If I were doing it, I would probably make three different pieces, maybe one each of one, two, and three stalls, with a couple of extra pieces that would allow the purchaser to buy multiple sets and with minimal effort, produce a collection of unique structures for the table top. |
Volstagg Vanir | 22 Jan 2010 7:37 p.m. PST |
If you were to be able to accommodate Cacique's suggestion of 5 for $60, I could see my way clearly to buying 10; enough for a full table-shanty town. Perhaps even more if the multi-type building pack were executed. (But: I'm admittedly obsessive about terrain
) |
Captain Apathy | 23 Jan 2010 8:22 a.m. PST |
I would be interested in the modular approach. Especially if I could make shanty towns or favelas. link |
Tsunami | 23 Jan 2010 9:19 a.m. PST |
If the 15mm-scale items could be just large enough to fit a 20mm guy in it, I'd buy enough for a shantytown. This would be great for near-future gaming in the 3rd world, and would go very nicely with my existing collection. So, if they could possibly fit 20mm, then I'd buy 10 or so.
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Space Monkey | 23 Jan 2010 12:21 p.m. PST |
I enjoy modelling scenery and I'm pretty sure I could build the basic structures myself, quickly and cheaply
so I'm probably not a market for the complete buildings. What I would be in the market for are the sculptural bits to kit out the structures and give them detail. So like the dead chickens hanging in the foreground of CC's original source picture
various crates and containers and the merchant people that sit in the stalls. |
Thomas Whitten | 24 Jan 2010 11:00 a.m. PST |
If modular I would buy 5 to 10 at the 12 to 15 dollar price point. They would mix well with my Armorcast junk piles and Old Crow tirewall. I would also be interested in the detailing bits venusboy3 mentioned. |
Thomas Whitten | 25 Jan 2010 2:41 p.m. PST |
Here is my attempt and shows why I would be in the market for such. (The Battle Works Studios one is much nicer :) link |
Battle Works Studios | 25 Jan 2010 4:41 p.m. PST |
Duly noted. We're hoping to get our first castable masters done sometime next week, once we clear a few commission jobs off the workbench. I'll try to keep TMP up to date on progress – sounds like quite a few people really want these pieces. |
Cacique Caribe | 26 Jan 2010 3:20 p.m. PST |
That is wonderful. I will order them, even if I'm typing with one finger. Dan |
Cacique Caribe | 04 Feb 2010 8:58 a.m. PST |
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Cacique Caribe | 24 Feb 2010 2:51 p.m. PST |
Battle Works Studios does it again: TMP link Dan |
Cacique Caribe | 25 Feb 2010 10:29 a.m. PST |
Way to go, Battle Works Studio! TMP link Dan |