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Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP20 Dec 2009 11:18 p.m. PST

Yes! MORLOCKS!!!!

A) Either like this . . .

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B) Or like this . . .

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C) Those from the 1960 film; or
D) Those from the 2002 film:

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QUESTIONS:

What do you guys think? Would they sell?

And, which 15mm manufacturer do you feel should take up the challenge?

Thanks.

Dan
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unitrecon Inactive Member21 Dec 2009 2:15 a.m. PST

Khurosan? Would fit into their new range.

Good Pulp/SF crossover, even useful as mutants/cavepersons and the like.

GeoffQRF Inactive Member21 Dec 2009 2:20 a.m. PST

And, which 15mm manufacturer do you feel should take up the challenge?

Probably the one with the biggest copyright solicitor on retainer ;-)

Steve Hazuka Inactive Member21 Dec 2009 2:21 a.m. PST

sculpting mutant humans for a pulp 15mm range wouldn't be a challenge. It's not anyones fault you painted them blue.

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP21 Dec 2009 5:36 a.m. PST

Good answer Geoff – copyright expires August 2016, until then you might have grief marketing them as Morlocks…. ;-)

the evil morlab Inactive Member21 Dec 2009 6:53 a.m. PST

"Probably the one with the biggest copyright solicitor on retainer ;-)"

what is it they say about people in glass houses?

lol

GeoffQRF Inactive Member21 Dec 2009 7:18 a.m. PST

You think I did an LLM for entertainment?

Inquisitor Thaken Inactive Member21 Dec 2009 7:49 a.m. PST

I'm a little weird. I'd probably want something fairly generic that could be Morlock/Sagoth/Oparian beastman, not that those are terribly different from each other anyway. As it is, I use some primitive looking orc figures for each of these, and they work just fine.

GeoffQRF Inactive Member21 Dec 2009 7:59 a.m. PST

As has almost been identified, some sort of generic hairy type beast is not an issue, although use of the name probably would be.

the evil morlab Inactive Member21 Dec 2009 8:13 a.m. PST

"You think I did an LLM for entertainment?"

i hope so because if anyone ever sues you for marketing those skullhunters or aliens you'd likely to be held to a higher standard (de facto if not de jure) because you should have known better ….

sometimes ignorance is bliss ;->

GeoffQRF Inactive Member21 Dec 2009 8:20 a.m. PST

Then you should know ignorantia juris non excusat means it is irrelevant.

Don't worry, we are covered :-)

the evil morlab Inactive Member21 Dec 2009 8:41 a.m. PST

oh dear. you are looking at it the wrong way. ignorance is not relevant? hum. tortfeasance by someone who has a full knowledge of the law is very relevant to the bench. ;->

GeoffQRF Inactive Member21 Dec 2009 8:45 a.m. PST

No, on the contrary, I was referring to your statement that sometimes ignorance is bliss

the evil morlab Inactive Member21 Dec 2009 8:48 a.m. PST

yes, at least compared to knowledge, sometimes it is. no matter what may be pontificated to the contrary, in practice, every court is a court of equity.

GeoffQRF Inactive Member21 Dec 2009 8:50 a.m. PST

Good, then I am happy you are happy (or something like that)

TheDreadnought Inactive Member21 Dec 2009 12:00 p.m. PST

Not sure about the Morlocks. . . but Eloi power armor and gunships would probably be a big seller! :)

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP21 Dec 2009 12:06 p.m. PST

Geoff: "some sort of generic hairy type beast is not an issue, although use of the name probably would be."

Should we hang on to hope then? :)

Dan

Andrew Beasley Inactive Member21 Dec 2009 12:10 p.m. PST

Big eyes and hairy for me (anyone who needs a picture I'll send a pre-breakfast picture of myself).

Not fussed about painting blue – yellow / cream would be good for me with black eyes.

Not saying GZG could not do it but they do not seem to sit with any range, 15mm do not seem to have much new, and of the actives I would have said Green Eyed or Khurasan and one of those is out of 15mm… The other option would be a fantasy supplier – Magister Militum could fit them into a range with no real issue and even MY could slide them in the 'Ice Age' and a fantasy monster. Maybe Splintered Light could start a 'monster' range as combatants for the Druids Children?

Andrew
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Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP21 Dec 2009 1:22 p.m. PST

Andrew,

I will check around and see if they have any interest in making something like this.

Thanks.

Dan

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP21 Dec 2009 2:13 p.m. PST

How's this for a description?

**** Primitive, muscular, ghoul-like, semi-upright, subterranean humanoids (with large eyes), wearing tattered garments and carrying a variety of improvised hand weapons and whips. ****

Would you say that is accurate enough for what HG Wells meant?

Thanks.

Dan
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Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP21 Dec 2009 4:23 p.m. PST

A figure of Yvette Mimieux wouldn't hurt also . . .

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The 2002 Morlocks looked cool too:
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The guys in The Descent look awesome:
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Dan

Redroom Inactive Member21 Dec 2009 7:48 p.m. PST

"..Morlock/Sagoth/Oparian beastman..", agreed, would be cool for those uses also.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP21 Dec 2009 8:50 p.m. PST

Yep. All of them LONG overdue!

Dan

Pole Bitwy PL22 Dec 2009 3:44 a.m. PST

Would a Yeti / Big Foot be fine as a replacement ?

JSchutt22 Dec 2009 6:56 p.m. PST

Take away their siren and what are they? Can't even crawl out of their stinking hole in the daytime. Everytime you game with them you would have to play in the dark. What fun is that?

I think this is just another ploy to get more Zombie looking figures on the market. Oddly enough the number of Zombie figures scupted can keep up with the number of Zombie rules sets on the market. There seems to be 2 Zombie Rule Sets for every Zombie sculpt currently available.

A very disturbing trend.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP22 Dec 2009 8:59 p.m. PST

JSchutt: "I think this is just another ploy to get more Zombie looking figures on the market."

LOL. So HG Wells' Time Machine (written in 1895) was all about zombies??? That's a first. Have you even read it?

Dude, get real.

Dan

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP23 Dec 2009 7:19 a.m. PST

JSchutt,

Here, knock yourself out:

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Dan

JSchutt23 Dec 2009 11:02 a.m. PST

I can't see where I said the movie was about zombies…. maybe my english was bad. The question was would they sell…. no. Convince me a game of shambling Morlocks vs labatomized humans would be fun.

I saw the movie around 1963 and it scared the bejeebers out of me. A Morlock is nothing more than a zombie in need of a spin in a barber chair.
-Cinematic "grasping for air" threatening approach
-Slow and seemingly mindless
-Shambling approach
-Big emphasis on teeth and eating people
-Complexion problem
-Rarely wear shoes
-Bad hygiene
-Massive wardrobe failures

The movie did inspire me to read all the SiFi authors of the day… Clark, Heinlein and then Asimov; who I fondly remember being better than anyone hacking away at the genre today.

28mmMan Inactive Member23 Dec 2009 11:26 a.m. PST

Jeff is a real supporter of the miniatures trade as well as being a fantastic painter/model maker…he has more, pro painted, miniatures than most local game stores have in shelf stock.

He rarely posts and I am sure he was just talking about the current trend for miniatures companies to flow with fads rather than finish a line…there are so many versions of the same theme without any serious difference between the rules.

Anyway the classic morlocks would be fun if for nothing else than to use the creepy Bleeped texts for what they are.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP23 Dec 2009 11:38 a.m. PST

Then I apologize if I seriously misunderstood when you said "I think this is just another ploy to get more Zombie looking figures on the market . . . A very disturbing trend."

Though you feel they are comparable, Zombies are supposed to be undead creatures, either by magic or a virus.

Morlocks, on the other hand, are a natural offshoot of humanity, after 800,000 years of separate development, and after several cataclysms.

They no longer view the surface dwellers as being of the same species.

And, in the novel, they are agile and intelligent nocturnal creatures.

Dan

28mmMan Inactive Member23 Dec 2009 12:19 p.m. PST

I could easily see there being a caste and there for different Morlocks, as the modern one explored.

With the slow creepies from the earlier version being the workers, toiling at a slower pace to conserve heat, energy, and reserves.

A smart/leader caste.

And a paired tracker/hunter caste…little mini me on crack as the tracker and a bigger type to do the heavy lifting and dragging of slaves/food.

Inquisitor Thaken Inactive Member23 Dec 2009 5:06 p.m. PST

Hmm… I don't think Morlocks are much like zombies.

Henry V Inactive Member25 Dec 2009 8:15 p.m. PST

Having only seen the 1960 movie I can see where Mr. Schutt was going with the analogy. But CC is right, in the book they are intelligent (in an animal sort of way) and fast moving.

HerbyF26 Dec 2009 8:15 p.m. PST

Ther are a number of zombie, goul, and primative figures oout there that would work for Morlocks already. You just need to look out side the box. I am always looking at figues from lines that are out side the range or period I am building. Many figures cross over with little modification or just a different paint job. Get a little creative.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP26 Dec 2009 11:32 p.m. PST

For now . . .

Pendraken Trolls:

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Dan
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Henry V Inactive Member28 Dec 2009 9:58 a.m. PST

^Those look good. I might try painting them a pale sickly shade or tan. And perhaps give them shiny red eyes. It might make them less "trollish."

28mmMan Inactive Member28 Dec 2009 10:44 a.m. PST

The classic mutant albino with pale veiny skin, white on white hair stained with yellowed filth/age, and pink eyes…mmmm creepy

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP31 Dec 2009 8:21 a.m. PST

28mmMan,

Look at this thread:
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Also, check out the creatures at 3:13 and 4:40:
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And at 8:35 here:
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Dan

deflatermouse23 May 2015 3:31 p.m. PST

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All Quiet on the Martian Front are bringing out Morlocks. Looks like some will be armed with knives or firearm.
And Magma men.

Mute Bystander Inactive Member24 May 2015 2:27 p.m. PST

Properly done in 15mm I would buy them but not as Morlocks, maybe alternative Monkey Men for THW games.

deflatermouse26 May 2015 3:36 p.m. PST
Mute Bystander Inactive Member01 Jun 2015 10:59 a.m. PST

deflatermouse,


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deflatermouse17 Aug 2017 1:34 p.m. PST

Reviving an old thread rather than starting a new one.
Have you seen this auction?

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Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP20 Aug 2017 9:04 a.m. PST

OMG! That's an amazing looking piece. Fantastic.

Dan

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