| Cacique Caribe | 21 Dec 2009 12:18 a.m. PST |
Yes! MORLOCKS!!!! A) Either like this . . . link B) Or like this . . . link C) Those from the 1960 film; or
D) Those from the 2002 film: link
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link QUESTIONS: What do you guys think? Would they sell? And, which 15mm manufacturer do you feel should take up the challenge? Thanks. Dan
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| unitrecon | 21 Dec 2009 3:15 a.m. PST |
Khurosan? Would fit into their new range. Good Pulp/SF crossover, even useful as mutants/cavepersons and the like. |
| GeoffQRF | 21 Dec 2009 3:20 a.m. PST |
And, which 15mm manufacturer do you feel should take up the challenge? Probably the one with the biggest copyright solicitor on retainer ;-) |
| Steve Hazuka | 21 Dec 2009 3:21 a.m. PST |
sculpting mutant humans for a pulp 15mm range wouldn't be a challenge. It's not anyones fault you painted them blue. |
 Doms Decals  | 21 Dec 2009 6:36 a.m. PST |
Good answer Geoff – copyright expires August 2016, until then you might have grief marketing them as Morlocks…. ;-) |
| the evil morlab | 21 Dec 2009 7:53 a.m. PST |
"Probably the one with the biggest copyright solicitor on retainer ;-)" what is it they say about people in glass houses? lol |
| GeoffQRF | 21 Dec 2009 8:18 a.m. PST |
You think I did an LLM for entertainment? |
| Inquisitor Thaken | 21 Dec 2009 8:49 a.m. PST |
I'm a little weird. I'd probably want something fairly generic that could be Morlock/Sagoth/Oparian beastman, not that those are terribly different from each other anyway. As it is, I use some primitive looking orc figures for each of these, and they work just fine. |
| GeoffQRF | 21 Dec 2009 8:59 a.m. PST |
As has almost been identified, some sort of generic hairy type beast is not an issue, although use of the name probably would be. |
| the evil morlab | 21 Dec 2009 9:13 a.m. PST |
"You think I did an LLM for entertainment?" i hope so because if anyone ever sues you for marketing those skullhunters or aliens you'd likely to be held to a higher standard (de facto if not de jure) because you should have known better …. sometimes ignorance is bliss ;-> |
| GeoffQRF | 21 Dec 2009 9:20 a.m. PST |
Then you should know ignorantia juris non excusat means it is irrelevant. Don't worry, we are covered :-) |
| the evil morlab | 21 Dec 2009 9:41 a.m. PST |
oh dear. you are looking at it the wrong way. ignorance is not relevant? hum. tortfeasance by someone who has a full knowledge of the law is very relevant to the bench. ;-> |
| GeoffQRF | 21 Dec 2009 9:45 a.m. PST |
No, on the contrary, I was referring to your statement that sometimes ignorance is bliss |
| the evil morlab | 21 Dec 2009 9:48 a.m. PST |
yes, at least compared to knowledge, sometimes it is. no matter what may be pontificated to the contrary, in practice, every court is a court of equity. |
| GeoffQRF | 21 Dec 2009 9:50 a.m. PST |
Good, then I am happy you are happy (or something like that) |
| TheDreadnought | 21 Dec 2009 1:00 p.m. PST |
Not sure about the Morlocks. . . but Eloi power armor and gunships would probably be a big seller! :) |
| Cacique Caribe | 21 Dec 2009 1:06 p.m. PST |
Geoff: "some sort of generic hairy type beast is not an issue, although use of the name probably would be." Should we hang on to hope then? :) Dan |
| Given up for good | 21 Dec 2009 1:10 p.m. PST |
Big eyes and hairy for me (anyone who needs a picture I'll send a pre-breakfast picture of myself). Not fussed about painting blue – yellow / cream would be good for me with black eyes. Not saying GZG could not do it but they do not seem to sit with any range, 15mm do not seem to have much new, and of the actives I would have said Green Eyed or Khurasan and one of those is out of 15mm… The other option would be a fantasy supplier – Magister Militum could fit them into a range with no real issue and even MY could slide them in the 'Ice Age' and a fantasy monster. Maybe Splintered Light could start a 'monster' range as combatants for the Druids Children? Andrew
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| Cacique Caribe | 21 Dec 2009 2:22 p.m. PST |
Andrew, I will check around and see if they have any interest in making something like this. Thanks. Dan |
| Cacique Caribe | 21 Dec 2009 3:13 p.m. PST |
How's this for a description? **** Primitive, muscular, ghoul-like, semi-upright, subterranean humanoids (with large eyes), wearing tattered garments and carrying a variety of improvised hand weapons and whips. **** Would you say that is accurate enough for what HG Wells meant? Thanks. Dan
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| Cacique Caribe | 21 Dec 2009 5:23 p.m. PST |
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| Redroom | 21 Dec 2009 8:48 p.m. PST |
"..Morlock/Sagoth/Oparian beastman..", agreed, would be cool for those uses also. |
| Cacique Caribe | 21 Dec 2009 9:50 p.m. PST |
Yep. All of them LONG overdue! Dan |
| Pole Bitwy PL | 22 Dec 2009 4:44 a.m. PST |
Would a Yeti / Big Foot be fine as a replacement ? |
| JSchutt | 22 Dec 2009 7:56 p.m. PST |
Take away their siren and what are they? Can't even crawl out of their stinking hole in the daytime. Everytime you game with them you would have to play in the dark. What fun is that? I think this is just another ploy to get more Zombie looking figures on the market. Oddly enough the number of Zombie figures scupted can keep up with the number of Zombie rules sets on the market. There seems to be 2 Zombie Rule Sets for every Zombie sculpt currently available. A very disturbing trend. |
| Cacique Caribe | 22 Dec 2009 9:59 p.m. PST |
JSchutt: "I think this is just another ploy to get more Zombie looking figures on the market." LOL. So HG Wells' Time Machine (written in 1895) was all about zombies??? That's a first. Have you even read it? Dude, get real. Dan |
| Cacique Caribe | 23 Dec 2009 8:19 a.m. PST |
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| JSchutt | 23 Dec 2009 12:02 p.m. PST |
I can't see where I said the movie was about zombies…. maybe my english was bad. The question was would they sell…. no. Convince me a game of shambling Morlocks vs labatomized humans would be fun. I saw the movie around 1963 and it scared the bejeebers out of me. A Morlock is nothing more than a zombie in need of a spin in a barber chair.
-Cinematic "grasping for air" threatening approach
-Slow and seemingly mindless
-Shambling approach
-Big emphasis on teeth and eating people
-Complexion problem
-Rarely wear shoes
-Bad hygiene
-Massive wardrobe failures The movie did inspire me to read all the SiFi authors of the day… Clark, Heinlein and then Asimov; who I fondly remember being better than anyone hacking away at the genre today. |
| 28mmMan | 23 Dec 2009 12:26 p.m. PST |
Jeff is a real supporter of the miniatures trade as well as being a fantastic painter/model maker…he has more, pro painted, miniatures than most local game stores have in shelf stock. He rarely posts and I am sure he was just talking about the current trend for miniatures companies to flow with fads rather than finish a line…there are so many versions of the same theme without any serious difference between the rules. Anyway the classic morlocks would be fun if for nothing else than to use the creepy  s for what they are. |
| Cacique Caribe | 23 Dec 2009 12:38 p.m. PST |
Then I apologize if I seriously misunderstood when you said "I think this is just another ploy to get more Zombie looking figures on the market . . . A very disturbing trend." Though you feel they are comparable, Zombies are supposed to be undead creatures, either by magic or a virus. Morlocks, on the other hand, are a natural offshoot of humanity, after 800,000 years of separate development, and after several cataclysms. They no longer view the surface dwellers as being of the same species. And, in the novel, they are agile and intelligent nocturnal creatures. Dan |
| 28mmMan | 23 Dec 2009 1:19 p.m. PST |
I could easily see there being a caste and there for different Morlocks, as the modern one explored. With the slow creepies from the earlier version being the workers, toiling at a slower pace to conserve heat, energy, and reserves. A smart/leader caste. And a paired tracker/hunter caste…little mini me on crack as the tracker and a bigger type to do the heavy lifting and dragging of slaves/food. |
| Inquisitor Thaken | 23 Dec 2009 6:06 p.m. PST |
Hmm… I don't think Morlocks are much like zombies. |
| Henry V | 25 Dec 2009 9:15 p.m. PST |
Having only seen the 1960 movie I can see where Mr. Schutt was going with the analogy. But CC is right, in the book they are intelligent (in an animal sort of way) and fast moving. |
| HerbyF | 26 Dec 2009 9:15 p.m. PST |
Ther are a number of zombie, goul, and primative figures oout there that would work for Morlocks already. You just need to look out side the box. I am always looking at figues from lines that are out side the range or period I am building. Many figures cross over with little modification or just a different paint job. Get a little creative. |
| Cacique Caribe | 27 Dec 2009 12:32 a.m. PST |
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| Henry V | 28 Dec 2009 10:58 a.m. PST |
^Those look good. I might try painting them a pale sickly shade or tan. And perhaps give them shiny red eyes. It might make them less "trollish." |
| 28mmMan | 28 Dec 2009 11:44 a.m. PST |
The classic mutant albino with pale veiny skin, white on white hair stained with yellowed filth/age, and pink eyes…mmmm creepy |
| Cacique Caribe | 31 Dec 2009 9:21 a.m. PST |
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| deflatermouse | 23 May 2015 4:31 p.m. PST |
link All Quiet on the Martian Front are bringing out Morlocks. Looks like some will be armed with knives or firearm.
And Magma men. |
| Mute Bystander | 24 May 2015 3:27 p.m. PST |
Properly done in 15mm I would buy them but not as Morlocks, maybe alternative Monkey Men for THW games. |
| deflatermouse | 26 May 2015 4:36 p.m. PST |
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| Mute Bystander | 01 Jun 2015 11:59 a.m. PST |
deflatermouse,
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| deflatermouse | 17 Aug 2017 2:34 p.m. PST |
Reviving an old thread rather than starting a new one.
Have you seen this auction? auction |
| Cacique Caribe | 20 Aug 2017 10:04 a.m. PST |
OMG! That's an amazing looking piece. Fantastic. Dan |
goes back to the year 2000!
