| TheDreadnought | 19 Nov 2009 9:28 p.m. PST |
So what does 15mm scale translate to when you're talking fractional scales? 1/144?? |
| CPBelt | 19 Nov 2009 9:38 p.m. PST |
Depends if you want to get into the metaphysical discussion of what really is 15mm? Sometimes around 1/100 give or take. 1/144 is more 10mm-ish. |
| Cpt Arexu | 19 Nov 2009 9:52 p.m. PST |
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| Top Gun Ace | 19 Nov 2009 10:27 p.m. PST |
1/144th is 12mm. 1/120th is 15mm, assuming you mean to the top of the figure, and using 1800mm tall males as the standard. Since most 15mm (measured to the eyes) are really about 18mm in height, from top of head to the soles of their feet, 1/100th seems to be the accepted norm by many people. |
| Cacique Caribe | 19 Nov 2009 10:40 p.m. PST |
I'm still new to 15mm, but I find that, when it comes to terrain bits, some of the taller 15mm figures look great next to 1/87 (HO scale) vehicles, brick walls and other pieces. Dan |
| GypsyComet | 19 Nov 2009 10:46 p.m. PST |
An 18mm tall figure is 1/100 for someone 5'11" tall, which is not unusual. The other common measure (no arguments as to "rightness" please) is to the figure's eyes, and 15mm to the eyes would represent a 1/100th someone who was about 5'5" if realistically proportioned. 15mm to the top of head scales to 4'11". So yes, the variability around 15mm figures works just fine as 1/100. Historical vehicles made for "15mm" are typically 1/100, and should measure as such, with some allowance made for mold shrinkage. |
| MPDeputy | 19 Nov 2009 11:02 p.m. PST |
Also 15mm goes with TT Train scale (1/120). |
 Dye4minis  | 19 Nov 2009 11:28 p.m. PST |
Top Gun Ace has it right! Six feet of measurement is 1800mm. When you divide 15 into 1800 you get 120 (the denominator of the fractional scale). Works the same in reverse. 18mm= 1/100th. You must decide which mm size your figures and vehicles are. (15 or 18mm) The math doesn't lie! 8>) Best
Tom Dye
GFI |
 Doms Decals  | 20 Nov 2009 3:43 a.m. PST |
Except of course that average height varies by nationality and era – for most periods 6 feet would be very tall, not typical. (For a WW2 GI, 5'6" is generally quoted, which would give you 1/112 for a figure exactly 15mm high; a 17mm figure would be pretty much 1/100.) With all that said, most "15mm" equipment is sculpted at 1/100, with only a couple of older ranges at 1/108, at least for 20th century stuff. |
| Martin Rapier | 20 Nov 2009 5:08 a.m. PST |
What Dom said, 1/100th (in general, although I do use some 1/87th scale stuff too). |
| TheDreadnought | 20 Nov 2009 7:35 a.m. PST |
LOL! Thanks guys! Only on TMP would I be able to get more than one response to this question! |
| Black Cavalier | 20 Nov 2009 8:20 a.m. PST |
Check out this nifty scale reference page on the old TMP site
TMP link I use it all the time. |
| Cacique Caribe | 20 Nov 2009 8:33 a.m. PST |
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| Farstar | 20 Nov 2009 12:25 p.m. PST |
Steve says: DELETED Yeah, this topic can leave me speechless, too. |
| infojunky | 20 Nov 2009 1:22 p.m. PST |
Historically 15mm was the average size of the figures that worked well with 1:100th identification models. And in General a wide number of "Scales" tend to work, it really comes down to; Does it look right. |
| Lentulus | 22 Nov 2009 5:22 p.m. PST |
15mm being what it is, it is somewhat open to interpretation. I took a set of calipers to my outpost miniatures FPW french and found that at 1:100 the Chassepot rifle he carries is exactly the right length, and estimating the top of his head inside the kepi he was pretty much the average height of French soldiers for 1870. This will probably not work for every line. People vary, but measuring standardized kit should get at the sculptor's intent for scale. |
| 28mmMan | 22 Nov 2009 7:13 p.m. PST |
2 cents worth : the bulk of miniatures are made to a size not to a scale That said, there is a fine margin for in and out of scale when your standard is only 15-18mm in total height…1mm is close to 4-5" in scale and it makes a huge difference in 1:4 or 1:5, huge. As there will never ever be a constant standard then it only makes sense to use the term size rather than scale. What is the fractal of 15mm? It can only be answered by measuring and calculating a particular miniature, IMO. |
| Cacique Caribe | 27 Jan 2011 4:00 a.m. PST |
Guys, I could help but add this quick note . . . I have finally found ABSOLUTE PROOF that 15mmm figures are really 1/100 scale: YouTube link
YouTube link
picture Even though she's shown in heels, she is really 1.52m tall. Pretty close to 1/100, if you ask me. And, I think, she's totally proportional. :) Dan
TMP link |
| Cacique Caribe | 27 Jan 2011 4:35 a.m. PST |
Seriously though, I do look at 18mm as being a representation of a 6 foot (1.8m) tall man, measured the way we all measure ourselves, from heel to top of head. Which means that 3mm equals a foot. So, to me, 18mm represents 1.8m. That's 1/100 in my book. Dan
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