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springsnow18 Nov 2009 4:48 a.m. PST

Hi gang,

Many of my playing buddies own British or American
troops. I wonder whether any Romanian or Hungarian
ever fought them.
Trying to find unusual opponents for them…

royaleddy18 Nov 2009 5:07 a.m. PST

i don't think so. ie i be utterly amazed if they did.
you could try Vichy French.
Germans come in so many flavors why not them?
i've seen a really smart Luftwaffe inf company for FoW.

Cardinal Hawkwood18 Nov 2009 5:13 a.m. PST

you could get them to fight each other

springsnow18 Nov 2009 5:28 a.m. PST

.Vichy French is my other option, but there's a lack of
10mm minis for the those(well Levant and North Africa at
least)
.Fighting each other wouldn't help as i would have to
provide both side :)
I should make clear that i don't own either right now, i'm
just trying to find the next army to paint apart from my
incoming finns^^^.

Rhino Co18 Nov 2009 5:34 a.m. PST

Your Romanians could always fight Soviets…what about Bulgarians?

And your Hungarians could whip up on some Slovakians (1938-41)or Czechoslovakians (1939). They assisted Germany in Yugoslavia and declared war on the Soviets in 1941.

Chris Palmer18 Nov 2009 5:53 a.m. PST

Why not do Italians. They fought the British and Americans… and the Soviets. And there is plenty available in 10mm

FreemanL18 Nov 2009 5:56 a.m. PST

Hungarians did fight US troops. I cannot remember the particulars, but I do remember them being confused at first with Germans. that is understandable due to the similar helmet.
Larry

Jemima Fawr18 Nov 2009 5:56 a.m. PST

Yes, the Hungarians fought the British – a Hungarian regimental group fought alongside the German Marine Divisions near Hanover in 1945. The 53rd (Welsh) Division found them to be tough opponents.

Martin Rapier18 Nov 2009 6:00 a.m. PST

The Rumanians main opponents are Soviets, followed by Hungarians & Germans! Given half a chance they'd have fought the Hungarians in 1941 as well…

If you want to fight the allies, a better bet would be Hungarians, as above.

Henrix18 Nov 2009 6:02 a.m. PST

Romania's war in short:
1/ Lose parts of the country to the Soviet Union (no fighting)
2/ Have a fascist coup and join the axis
3/ Join the Operation Barbarossa and send lots of troops into Soviet (And 3.1/ Be bombed rather thoroughly by the US/British)
4/ Get trashed back to Romania
5/ Have royalist countercoup, join the allies, and be invaded by the soviet union, in that slightly curious order
6/ Fight Hungary, Austria, Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia (including german troops in those countries)

So, the eligeble historical opponents are:
1941-44 Soviet Forces (with extra german stuff)
1942-44 (I think) US and British air forces (no land battles)
1944-45 Hungary, Austria, Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia, (with a deal of Soviet material and tanks)

springsnow18 Nov 2009 6:08 a.m. PST

Yes Italians is the best multi purpose/theater army,
even fought German as the "Co-belligerent Army" :)

Edit: Argh, was responding to Chris Palmer and now ten
more replies arrived, cool :p

Thanks for all the replies guys, didn't know that Hungarians
fought Brits and maybe US troops, interesting.

Frontovik18 Nov 2009 7:49 a.m. PST

There was no Czechoslovakia in 1944 you may mean Slovakia who have an interesting history in 1944-45

link

While the Slovak government soldiered on into 1945 their army was effectively gone after this.

Deserter18 Nov 2009 9:39 a.m. PST

The Hungarians fought the Slovak in 1939

link

Jemima Fawr18 Nov 2009 9:41 a.m. PST

I'd add that this was by no means common. The battle between Welsh and Hungarian units in 1945 is the only instance I've ever come across for Hungarians fighting on the Western Front.

Rudysnelson18 Nov 2009 10:02 a.m. PST

I thought I read one report that in 1945 Hungarian units with Pnzr IVs fought some German units.

Henrix18 Nov 2009 11:35 a.m. PST

Yes, sorry, Slovakia.

Henrix18 Nov 2009 11:43 a.m. PST

I'd forgotten that little war, Deserter.

It could be a fun war to refight – you could almost get it all in on one table!

Etranger18 Nov 2009 2:03 p.m. PST

Rudy – during the Battle of Budapest there were some clashes, although the Hungarian forces generally seemed to simply 'ignore' the Germans rather than fight them at that point. The Germans themselves having rather a lot of Russians to contend with. …

The German coup that toppled Horthy in 1944 could also have descended into combat rather quickly.

Aurelian18 Nov 2009 2:29 p.m. PST

The German coup that toppled Horthy -did- descend into combat. There was a firefight outside the Regent's Palace, and there was a battle on the Lion's Brigade, where Hungarian cavalry attempted to halt the advancing German Army… The Honved only laid down its arms when Horthy ordered them to.

-A.

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