"Hessian Uniforms AWI" Topic

I am using a couple good sites of drawings for Hessian AWI uniforms. However I am seeing conflicts between the drawings and also having difficulties determining actual colors on some of the drawings. In particular, I am having difficulty with the Hessian Grenadiers in the merged battalions.

Is there a clothing warrant available anywhere for the Hessians-particularly the Hessen-Kassel troops?

Which items of the grenadiers' uniforms are causing you problems? In essence, they were the same as the rest of the regiment, other than the mitre caps.

Is this one of the sites? If it isn't, click on "Hesse Kassel" and then click on each of the grenadier battalions from the list of HK units – the links will show you the companies that made up that battalion and their uniforms. If you are already using this, ask the guy who runs it to clarify any items you can't make out.

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Part of the problem is the drawings are not of the best quality, clarity and color and part is the poor color of my monitor. I think I came going to look at the drawings again on a better monitor. Ideally a clothing warrant would answer a lot of questions but it seems they are not available. Even a chart listing regimental facing, collar, lining colors, etc would be useful in conjunction with the drawings. And the Grenadier cap facings, colors and tuffs are a major difficulty because of the conflicts.

In the meantime, I am going to set them aside and work on British Grenadiers.

The chap who runs the von Donop site – Robert Sulentic – is very helpful.

Perhaps yiou would get a better picture accessing the site from a library computer, or at school/work?

Get thee to Don Troiani's site! Historical Imagebank!

Bob

Actually I did get on to another monitor today. The pictures and colors were as clear as day. So now I can finish off those hessian grenadiers. I really need to get a new monitor. But I hate to get rid of a functioning monitor even if the colors are kind of screwed up… I guess I will break down and get a new one while keeping the old one as a backup.

is their an osprey on these? I was looking for a good uniform reference for hessians the other day too…

Osprey have previously refused to consider one because they thought it would not sell.

Meanwhile, back at MAA 666 "Belt Buckles of the Waffen SS women's division (Vol 5 – the Mediterranean theatre)"…….

There is a CD by Timothy J. Reese called Uniforms of the American Revolution 1775-1783. You want vol. 2 French and German Auxiliaries. He has then all in colour pdf plates.

Try here: link

Brother Richard

Nothing from Osprey. Silly, really. I used those links on the web I could find and as much that I could glean from Troiani. There have been rumors of other companies doing a uniform book on Hessians, Brunswickers and the like but they have never come to fruition. The Reese CD is excellent but I aquired one after the majority of my German contingent was painted.

Are there any reviews of the CDs on the net? They are tempting but the set costs £35, which would be difficult for me to spare right now, or in the near future.

ACW Bill I would have thought that being in the UK SM may be able to comment on Osprey's Attitude on that title.

ACW Bill I would have thought that being in the UK SM may be able to comment on Osprey's Attitude on that title.
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I believe he was told by Osprey,that such a title wouldn't sell! Funny,as people on theses boards have been screaming for that for years!
Osprey also seems to waste their time and energy on some very UN-interesting and uninspiring titles!
Funny,they came out with a title on Loyalist troops I never expected to see!

Bob

Yes, I was told this. It was a few years ago now, but there was another recent attempt by a number of UK-based AWI enthusiasts to communicate the existing interest in this particular subject, which got nowhere.

SM that was my experience when I brought the title as well. The same goes for my project on the SpanishArmy in the AWI. This is why I have approached an USA publisher. The book is in the pipeline but of course it is waitng on the accompanying artwork.

I put the hold on the ready to go German Aux forces of the AWI book on hold, when I saw the author or Osprey's Boston and Saratoga bring out a similar book whrough an alternate publisher in the UK.

This is a glaring omission from their catalogue – you'd think they'd be embarassed that they don't cover the topic in the least.

Essay, let us remember that they were releasing miitary titles over 30 years before they got around to Trafalgar!

<<I put the hold on the ready to go German Aux forces of the AWI book on hold, when I saw the author or Osprey's Boston and Saratoga bring out a similar book whrough an alternate publisher in the UK.>>

Which publisher was that? I'm pretty sure that author hasn't written anything on German troops other than the Saratoga article on the Perry website. From memory, your manuscript covered all the Germans – I'd suggest you go ahead anyway.

I'd second that!

I wasn't aware of Mr. Morrissey (?) publishing a book on Germans through anyone else either. I did search amazon and find a previously unseen book by him "The American Revolution" of 2001. Without derailing the thread could anyone comment on that book?

Pure speculation bur perhaps the French in the AWI was a slow seller, and put osprey off a German title? On the other hand there's no shortage of AWI campaign titles, so its not like they see interest in the conflict as a non-starter.

Pure speculation bur perhaps the French in the AWI was a slow seller, and put osprey off a German title?
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I would get a ton more use out of a German title than the French. I mean,I bought it,glanced at it once or twice,but thats about it.I'm not adding any French troops to my 28mm collection anytime soon.

Bob

I agree; a German title would be far more useful as they saw more action than the French (at least in the American colonies, the battles which most people think of when recreating the war).

For painting purposes, there is quite a bit of internet information available on Hessians. VonDonop site has drawings of every Hessian regiment that served. The problem is when supplementing with the Triona and Lefforts sites, sometimes I will see conflicts. The same with my Osprey Campaign's of Philadelphia and The British Army in North America. I keep seeing small contradictions or certain details are not quite visible. Regardless there is fairly comprehensive depictions available on Hessian uniforms just on the internet. Unfortunately, they don't all agree.

What I would like to see is relatively definitive information settling contradictions. A clothing warrant would be fantastic for settling disputes. A discussion of field modifications would be nice as well. Unfortunately, that information may not be available.

I'm not adding any French troops to my 28mm collection anytime soon.

I will be adding French when they are available. Although not for reenactments of specific battles but for hypothetical battles.

Clibinarium, any idea when Brit, American, Loyalists leaders might be available for your 10mm line? I am using dismounting regimental leaders for brigade commanders and mounted Old Glory for division leaders but I am looking forward to specifically designed brigade and division commanders.

"Meanwhile, back at MAA 666 "Belt Buckles of the Waffen SS women's division (Vol 5 – the Mediterranean theatre)"……."

LOL!!!

Also I would second going to the Perrys website--lots of lovely painted figs and a guide to the Saratoga campaign!

Also I would second going to the Perrys website--lots of lovely painted figs and a guide to the Saratoga campaign!
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An excellent guide! As is the one for British troops!

Bob