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Chortle Fezian10 Nov 2009 5:57 p.m. PST

Kalashnikov has been decorated as a "Hero of Russia" for "inventing" the AK47.

Didn't he copy the German MP44?

Inspired by his success I am now going to invent the K47 Kenneally-Kov rifle.

Where is my medal?

Bayonet10 Nov 2009 6:02 p.m. PST

Ahh, but you must admit the MP44 was nowhere near as popular as the AK.

Dr Mathias Fezian10 Nov 2009 6:17 p.m. PST

I suspect many more people have met their fates at the ends of an AK. I wonder if any of Kalashnikov's relatives worried about ghosts, like Winchester's widow? :)

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Personal logo Dentatus Sponsoring Member of TMP Fezian10 Nov 2009 7:44 p.m. PST

About time… I figured an honor like that would have happened long ago.

Patrick R10 Nov 2009 7:48 p.m. PST

The mechanism of the AK-47 is more akin to the Garand than the MP44. Don't forget that the Germans possibly copied it from the Fedorov.

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Personal logo Murphy Sponsoring Member of TMP10 Nov 2009 9:47 p.m. PST

And AK's are ALWAYS a hot item in Bongolesia!!!!

artaxerxes10 Nov 2009 11:41 p.m. PST

He never saw a cent in royalties, patent dues etc, for obvious reasons. He now gives his name to a brand of vodka, becoming more readily available in the West (anachronistic term, that one, in the week of the anniversary of the Wall coming down, but what might one use, instead?).

Tom Bryant11 Nov 2009 12:16 a.m. PST

Not really, he designed it along different principles. As a student of engineering I am impressed by General Kalashnikov's ability to design an almost idiot-proof system for both the end user and the manufacturer. I'd love to meet him someday.

Barin111 Nov 2009 12:29 a.m. PST

Correct, AK-47 looks similar to Stg 44, but the mechanism is different. Also, from the technology point of view, it is a completely different model – most of the details stamped, very few machined details, completely different alloys and heat treatment.
There's a link with a discussion (in Russian, but there's plenty of self-explaining pictures;)

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Martin Rapier11 Nov 2009 2:29 a.m. PST

"Didn't he copy the German MP44?"

How many times does this come up? No he didn't, even though the MP44 has a wood stock and a banana mag.

The MP44 design didn't even survive postwar, the CETME/G3 family were dervied from the Mauser Stg 45.

Anyway to echo the comments above, I'm not surprised. Kalashnikov designed a world beater.

So, who designed the T55 then?

Barin111 Nov 2009 3:04 a.m. PST

According to all sources I've seen, Leonid Nikolaevich Kartsev

Mooseworks811 Nov 2009 7:23 a.m. PST

Didn't he receive honors or an AK day of some sort in Bongolesia?

cosmicbank11 Nov 2009 8:08 a.m. PST

Didn't he receive honors or an AK day of some sort in Bongolesia?


I think there may be a sandwich there named after him.

Col Stone11 Nov 2009 9:08 a.m. PST

The "Hero of the Russian Federation" is nothing new for him tho, having already gotten 2 Hero of Socialist Labor-medals =)

sergeis12 Nov 2009 5:02 p.m. PST

Well, here we are again…
No- nothing to do with MP44- more to do with Fedorov's avtomat.
No he is by far NOT poor – being a laureate of all sorts of Soviet premiums he was doing very well during Soviet times, and he is doing very well now. He is 90yo- and still heading the AK bureau. As for the awards- I believe he indeed has a couple of stars already- one might be from his WWII tanker days, so another star with different name is no big deal for him…

Spectacle13 Nov 2009 12:57 a.m. PST

The myth about Kalashnikov being poor comes from him being broke in the early 90s, right after the fall of communism when the Russian government was nearly bankrupt, and pensions weren't paid for months on end.

sergeis13 Nov 2009 3:28 p.m. PST

Myth- exactly- he is still working! Possibly the salaries were not paid either to government defense contractors- but I am sure that was not an issue for him. He might have sold the rights to his name to some vodka company- that brand being NOT very popular anyways…

Col Stone13 Nov 2009 3:34 p.m. PST

I think it's quite nice =)

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