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GeorgethePug10 Nov 2009 12:42 p.m. PST

Would it be closer to a french blue or a Prussian Blue ?

Yes I know they fade ect ….. but would like to have idea of the color they were trying to achieve

Widowson10 Nov 2009 12:50 p.m. PST

I would expect French blue--that is, very dark blue appearing almost black. I try to use navy blue, and then hit highlights with lighter blue.

GeorgethePug10 Nov 2009 12:57 p.m. PST

I had guessed it was closer if not the same blue as the French …… but just wanted to check if there was anything to be aware of before painting !!

Yves Martin10 Nov 2009 3:54 p.m. PST

The blue is actually called "granatowy" in polish – and in French "bleu turquin" it is a dark blue with a slight tinge of grey and green – so dark but not as strikingly dark and blue as the regular french napoleonic blue. YM

grecian195910 Nov 2009 3:56 p.m. PST

what about the polish crimson /raspberry uniform colour too-any manufacturer selling anything close also anyone selling something close to moroccan leather colour for officers leatherwork

Garde de Paris10 Nov 2009 4:32 p.m. PST

The old Humbrol line had a great "Polish Crimson," allegedly ideal for the Polish Lancers of the French Imperial Guard. I do not know if it is made today.

They had another color designed for the dark red/maroon stripes on the breeches of German Generals, WWII. I can't remember the name. It might work for the Moroccan leather you note above.

GdeP

GeorgethePug10 Nov 2009 4:39 p.m. PST

I had the same question about the polish crimson ( pink ) type color ?? And the Lancers coat being a slate blue ?

Yves Martin10 Nov 2009 11:50 p.m. PST

Polish crimson is indeed a dark red-pink hedging on purple.

the slate blue you indicate is the bleu turquin which is the "polish blue" – a dark blue with tints of grey and green

YM

julianmizzi11 Nov 2009 3:29 a.m. PST

Colleagues ,

Try this link below for a fantastic series of Books on the Polish troops of the Napoleonic wars .

link

I have been able to source the complete set so far , the quality of the books are excellant . Its a pity I don't know Polish.

Can hardly wait to get the two books on the Uhlans !

mashroomca11 Nov 2009 1:19 p.m. PST

look up indigo blue (that wil be a very good match for the jacket

seneffe12 Nov 2009 5:17 p.m. PST

Yves- very interesting. I've encountered Bleu Turquin before as the colour of the tunics of the Imperial Guard Lancers (incidentally I think Humbrol Matt 5077 is a good match for it).

But your comment has made me think. Was this shade, rather than Imperial Blue, used by the troops of the Grand Duchy of Warsaw, or maybe the Vistula Legion too. I know the latter and a few of the former, were uniformed directly by the French authorities- but then so were the Guard Lancers- and THEY were given Polish turquin blue.

Anyone have any detail on this?

Swampking21 Nov 2009 6:32 a.m. PST

Don't mean to contradict the experts but actually 'granatowy' is normally translated as 'navy blue' and after seeing examples in the Polish Army Museum – the blue is very dark. Apple Barrel makes a 'British Navy blue' and a 'true navy' that I use for my Poles [though they're of the 1792 variety].

The Polish crimson – again, based on examples from the Polish Army Museum is more of a dusty or old rose – a darkish pink and actually, quite a bright shade, if that makes any sense.

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