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Stosstruppen09 Nov 2009 8:43 p.m. PST

What color coat did the musicians wear?

Did they wear a colpack and if so what color was that?

Thanks for your help.

Camcleod09 Nov 2009 9:37 p.m. PST

Histofig shows the 1st Chasseurs trumpeter in white with white colpack:
picture

Deutsche Uniformen shows the 5th also in white & white:
link

Couldn't find a musician of the 4th anywhere. I assume it would also be white & white.

Cliff

Stosstruppen10 Nov 2009 7:21 a.m. PST

Thanks Cliff!

Yves Martin11 Nov 2009 12:05 a.m. PST

The reference works on polish troops are the books by Bronislaw Gembarzewski. Firts one published pre-WW1 (Wojsko Polskie 1807-1814) and reprinted in Poland in recent years – but with few illustrations (although beautiful) and also "Zolnierz Polski" published in the 1960s from his work recovered after WW2.

Aside from these hard to find volumes (but essential for a full view of the Polish armies), a series was started in the late 1980s and is still under publication.

The first volume is out of print but dealt with the cavalry (except the lancers):

Morawski/Wielecki: Wojsko Ksiestwa Warszawskiego – Kawaleria
publisher: Bellona

It's all color plates with text in polish, summary in french and english and captions also in french and english

It can still be had as second-hand via sites like abebooks.com

On page 67 there is a plate devoted to trumpeters

1st: white kinski type coat (short surtout) with red collar, pointed red cuffs, turnbacks red

4th: same as 1st but with turnbacks edged red – edge being fairly wide

both 1st and 4th have a hussar-style coatee visible under the coat red with hussar yellow and green braiding also hedging the bottom of the coatee

5th: same as 4th but all that is red is pale orange.

cavalry trousers for all green with double band on the side red for 1st and 4th, pale orange for 5th (presulbaly)

all busbys are white with yellow cords

1st: fluffy "overtuned" plume (hanging down) 50/50 red and green with red above
4th as 1st but standard plume
5th: same as 4th but with red replaced by pale ornage

sheepskin saddlecloth with lion's teeth edging in red for 1st and 4th, pale orange for 5th

All have yellow epaulettes

This is of course parade dress

Hope this helps

finally "deutscheuniformen" is actually plates from the Lienhart & Humbert reference book published in the late 1890s and covering all of french troops up to 2nd Empire -including allied troops of teh napoleonic period. It is not without major mistakes.

YM

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