"19thC Ural / Caucasian Cossacks fighting in the same unit..?" Topic
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| Durando | 08 Nov 2009 5:31 a.m. PST |
I am trying to form a 28mm Cossack foot unit(Plastoon), does anyone know if the Ural and Caucasian cossacks banded together in the same units…? The period I am interested in is 1860`s-1890`s Thanks, Geoff |
aecurtis  | 08 Nov 2009 8:48 a.m. PST |
As each regiment was raised from a specific host, I'm not at all sure how this could occur. Allen |
| sergeis | 08 Nov 2009 1:58 p.m. PST |
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| sergeis | 08 Nov 2009 2:02 p.m. PST |
What is a Caucasian Cossack? |
| aecurtis | 08 Nov 2009 2:15 p.m. PST |
In Shipka's period, he would be from the Kuban, Terek, or Black Sea hosts, all in colonies along the Caucasus defense line. Until 1860, there had been the Caucasus Line host, but at that time, it was divided into the Kuban and Terek hosts. Allen |
| sergeis | 08 Nov 2009 2:17 p.m. PST |
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Frederick  | 09 Nov 2009 7:18 a.m. PST |
I agree with Allen – Cossack identity was tied to the Host which was how the regiments were raised – as he notes, the Caucasian Hosts were Kuban and Terek, the Ural Cossacks had their own Host, raised along the Yalk River – if a regiment was so decimated that it needed to be consolidated, I suspect the kazaks would have just headed home |
| Mark Plant | 09 Nov 2009 6:17 p.m. PST |
There was a later composite Cossack Guard Regiment, though mounted not plastoon. In WWI I believe regiments from different Hosts might be combined into composite divisions. In any case, did the Urals have plastoons in the 1860 – 1890 period? My memory is a bit iffy on this, but I thought they were all mounted in that Host at that time. |
| aecurtis | 09 Nov 2009 8:57 p.m. PST |
The Ural host didn't have plastuni at any time in the c.19th, as they were only *called* plastuni in the Kuban host!  But there were--for example, in 1882--nineteen battalions of Cossack infantry in the Imperial Russian army. Seven (two in peacetime, an additional five in time of war) of these were Kuban plastuni, while none were Ural. If you want to peruse the breakdown, start on page 90 here: link Allen |
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