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McWong73 Supporting Member of TMP04 Nov 2009 7:33 p.m. PST

link

Thoughts folks?

Personal logo rat of tobruk Supporting Member of TMP04 Nov 2009 7:44 p.m. PST

I not interested in FOW Vietnam but I will be buying those choppers. Awesome.

Skipper04 Nov 2009 7:48 p.m. PST

What a shame they are three months too late, I've already invested in "Nam", but at the 6mm scale.

Personal logo Murphy Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Nov 2009 7:57 p.m. PST

Gods the Choppers are beautiful…and the figs look nice too….hmmm…Hueys in Bongolesia…..hmmmm…

Hueys….
Bongo….lesia….
hmmmm….

*looks at map*…hmmmmm…

Wondering if this is just a quick "one shot deal" or will they expand on this line….

Personal logo aecurtis Supporting Member of TMP Fezian04 Nov 2009 8:00 p.m. PST

Not really the right game system to do it, IMO, although Ia Drang is a better candidate than most.

The figures look pretty good, though, and the PAVN units especially so. I see a revival of RFCM's "Men of Company B" in the offing…

Allen

PSADennis04 Nov 2009 8:25 p.m. PST

Now if I could just con Mel Gibson into making a Six Day War film……
Dennis

haywire Supporting Member of TMP04 Nov 2009 8:36 p.m. PST

Gee, and I was just debating switching from 1/72nd to 1/100

Huw R Davies04 Nov 2009 9:03 p.m. PST

Anton (mentioned in the article) is probably the chap that used to own Flashpoint Miniatures….

Interesting. I do hope that the choppers are 1/100 & not 1/144 though. The figures do look nice & not too prone to the BF Bighead syndrome.

headzombie Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Nov 2009 9:09 p.m. PST

In.

Personal logo Pictors Studio Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Nov 2009 9:09 p.m. PST

I just painted up a bunch of figs for vietnam and based them for flames of war, it was just last summer. I saw sweet. Get this news out!

McWong73 Supporting Member of TMP04 Nov 2009 9:13 p.m. PST

For a side project it's miles better than MWM….

kyoteblue Supporting Member of TMP04 Nov 2009 10:04 p.m. PST

I wonder if BF is going to blow off Early War and Pacific now??

darthfozzywig04 Nov 2009 10:57 p.m. PST

Still considering a FOW Dien Bien Phu campaign…

Personal logo GeoffQRF Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Nov 2009 11:17 p.m. PST

Anton was Flashpoint, now owned by another company. Sounds like the non-compete clause was not properly written. ;-)

McWong73 Supporting Member of TMP05 Nov 2009 1:50 a.m. PST

Or it's expired. It would be more than a year since he sold it?

From what I've seen this is just a side show, if they were really serious about it the rules wouldn't have been published in WI. Good on them, I'll reserve final judgment till I get my next copy of WI though.

Huw R Davies05 Nov 2009 1:50 a.m. PST

Flashpoint is involved in the project, at least according to the new owners over on 'Fields of Fire'.

The PAVN will do nicely for Dien Bien Phu, except for those wielding AK47s. I needed a few platoons of AAMGs too……

Personal logo Barks1 Supporting Member of TMP05 Nov 2009 2:00 a.m. PST

I had been wondering what happened to Flashpoint.

I'm in, but I'll probably go single basing for Ambush Valley. I like the US command figures.

I hope this isn't a limited one off release, altho' it smells like it at this stage.

Personal logo Dropship Horizon Supporting Member of TMP05 Nov 2009 3:54 a.m. PST

Not really the right game system to do it, IMO, although Ia Drang is a better candidate than most.

Perhaps not the grinding day to day war Allen but there were plenty of large engagements that would be suitable to the FOW treatment.

Cheers
Mark

Personal logo Extra Crispy Supporting Member of TMP05 Nov 2009 5:13 a.m. PST

Guys the link doesn't work for me but if it is what I suspect, those are the soon to be re-released Flashpoint Miniatures Vietnam range. Flashpoint have redone their packaging and some fo the sculpts. They have added the M113 and choppers to the line up. The choppers will be 1/100 or so not 1/144.

You can pre-order the new packs here:

link

The new packs are due in stock shortly after Fall-In, and have the NEW! prefix in their names. The Old packs are available while supplies last.

Regards,

Mark Severin
Scale Creep Miniatures

Personal logo nazrat Supporting Member of TMP05 Nov 2009 5:31 a.m. PST

Those Hueys look fantastic and there was a distinct lack of Slicks out there in 15mm. Great job!

Personal logo Bravo Six Supporting Member of TMP05 Nov 2009 5:51 a.m. PST

Yep.. I'm REALLY looking forward to this stuff. The sculpts (if done by Anton) will help expand my already hefty investment in the Flashpoint stuff. I'm curious to know though as it's not mentioned… are the choppers plastic and unpainted like FOW's vehicle range? The pics make them look like pre-painted die-cast though I know that's probably not the case. I like the clear rotor option. Nice touch.

-B6

Arrigo05 Nov 2009 6:19 a.m. PST

Resin unpainted B6…

they are cleraly not die cast and you can see washing, also look at the "glass" part they are clearly painted on.

Very good models too… i definelty see them entring my collection (so… 3 Italery 1/100 diecast Uh1 Slick… 1 Old glory 1/100 resin UH1 Hog/Frog… three of those… antoher gunship… Guys… I can made a massive 6 chopper lift witgh a full escort section… yuppieeeee!)

Arrigo

Personal logo Bravo Six Supporting Member of TMP05 Nov 2009 6:22 a.m. PST

Thanks Arrigo.

-B6

Personal logo GeoffQRF Sponsoring Member of TMP05 Nov 2009 7:22 a.m. PST

Or it's expired. It would be more than a year since he sold it?
In the wargames market I'd have negotiated for two, but yes it could have expired. Or not been present at all. Assuming it is actually a competing range by the previous owner.

I had been wondering what happened to Flashpoint
Flashpoint Miniatures is now owned by Seige Works (http://www.flashpoint-miniatures.com/)

Flashpoint is involved in the project, at least according to the new owners over on 'Fields of Fire'.
Now curious where that means Anton, or Drew, or Anton in conjunction with Drew, or Drew in conjunction with BF… :-)

I couldn't work out why WI… then remembered that BF own it now. :-)

Garand05 Nov 2009 8:11 a.m. PST

I'd definitely like to a closer look at the figures. It looks like they're wearing the "standard" Army uniform, rather than the "jungle" uniform. That would make them suitable for Central European summer battles as well…

Damon.

axabrax Supporting Member of TMP05 Nov 2009 8:39 a.m. PST

Sweeeeet!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am going to do this for sure….

GrotGnome05 Nov 2009 12:47 p.m. PST

"but if it is what I suspect, those are the soon to be re-released Flashpoint Miniatures Vietnam range. Flashpoint have redone their packaging and some fo the sculpts. They have added the M113 and choppers to the line up. The choppers will be 1/100 or so not 1/144.'

no they're not the Flashpoint range figures…and the Hueys are definately 1/100 scale

Lion in the Stars05 Nov 2009 12:58 p.m. PST

Interesting… I think the Ambush Alley guys might want to expedite Ambush Valley!

I might be able to get some of the guys at the LGS interested if this is readily available (ie, through the store).

Huw R Davies05 Nov 2009 1:55 p.m. PST

Geoff – it's one of the new owners posting on the FOF forum, so all your options are possible!

Personal logo Ambush Alley Games Sponsoring Member of TMP05 Nov 2009 5:59 p.m. PST

We'll be out before the end of the year, but not in the next two weeks.

Siege Works Studios05 Nov 2009 7:14 p.m. PST

Hi everyone,

This is Drew from Flashpoint Miniatures a division of Siege Works Studios Ltd.

I think it best that I clarify a few things up for everyone, regarding the Wargames Illustrated release of Ia Drang! A LIMITED range of US and PAVN blisters for refighting battles in Vietnam, specifically emphasised – Ia Drang, is being released by Battlefront miniatures to be sold exclusively through their WI magazine website. The Ia Drang experience is NOT a new release into a different era from WW2, but a themed supplement, something Battlefront have said they would like to do a lot more off and in many different eras to support Wargames Illustrated website and magazine. See their website for confirmation of this – "These are the first WI Exclusives we have done" (Quote taken from the Flames of War website)

Ia Drang is a Battlefront Miniatures Ltd production with figures sculpted by Anton and the Weapons and Huey sculpted by Evan, from my understanding.

Siege Works studios are not in colloboration with Battlefront miniatures on this project.

Anton has NOT failed to comply with any legal and binding agreements with Siege Works Studios who purchased Flashpoint Miniatures off of Anton, early this year and in fact has upheld all commitments very honorably.

Siege Works Studios were aware of Battlefronts LIMITED intentions in this area and Anton has complied in all aspects of his agreements with said parties. (So can we please keep from bagging Anton regarding anything he has sculpted)The Ia Drang figures are very good and are very similar to the Flashpoint miniatures Vietnam range he sculpted as well.

Flashpoint Miniatures is now owned by Siege Works Studios. See website flashpoint-miniatures.com) Anton sold us the Flashpoint range. It was Anton that sculpted all the Flashpoint miniatures for Vietnam, just like, I believe, he has done with Battlefronts' Ia Drang LIMITED release, so the figures in all aspects are very similar between Battlefronts Ia Drang and Siege Works Studios Flashpoint ranges.

Siege Works Studios does a complete range of Vietnam figures covering not only US Army and PAVN but all of the armies:

We sell 15mm US ARMY, US MARINES, ANZACS, NORTH VIETNAMESE, COMMUNIST SOUTH VIETNAMESE (Main Force VC) LOCAL VC, M113's (ACAV and Troop Transport options)Soon to be released are Civilians and ARVN, with other options following. We also sell Moderns, 15mm US Deltas, Rangers and Somali Militias for Mogadishu, we also have a number of other Moderns ranges on the way, but cannot discuss this just yet.We also sell Horse and Musket rules, currently we sell a Seven Years War rule set called Koenig Krieg with accessories for the game. See koenigkrieg.com Figures for SYW in 15mm will be available soon from the website.

Siege Works Studios online shop for Flashpoint Miniatures ranges will be up at the end of this month.

Currently there are 3 Shops in the US that stock or have a shipment arriving in the next couple of weeks for anybody who wishes to purchase Flaspoint Miniatures. These shops are:

Miniatures of Chesapeake – (Email)miniofchesapeake@cox.net
Noble Knight Games – nobleknight.com
Scale Creep Miniatures – scalecreep.com

Any company wishing to stock our Flashpoint Miniatures ranges in their shops please contact drew@siegeworksstudios.com or ken@siegeworksstudios.com

Anybody wishing to check out Flashpoint miniatures online please go to flashpoint-miniatures.com

I think that has covered everything to everyones satisfaction.

Hope you all have a great weekend and good gaming to everyone!

kyoteblue Supporting Member of TMP05 Nov 2009 8:52 p.m. PST

Thanks !!!

Joe Kool05 Nov 2009 9:08 p.m. PST

Well if it is a limited one time Vietnam release from Battlefront, it's a shame. I'd love to see some well proportioned VC, Anzacs and USMC. It looks like Anton has really come into his own on the sculpting front, as these minis are much better than his original works. Great work Anton!

I'm not bagging on the Flashpoint line, as I have a large collection of them. I hope the line successfully continues to grow and prosper. The greens of the villagers and ARVN look great from what I've seen.

No matter what the naysayers believe the FOW engine can work just fine for most if not all of the major battles of Vietnam. I won;t argue that it would need some tweaks and special scenarios to do so.

Dan aka Tallyhobiggles05 Nov 2009 9:12 p.m. PST

Bleeped text , I have just ordered a large amount of NVA and US troops from TAG , so wont be doing this again in 15mm . I will buy the Mag for a read though and possibly buy the markers.
Dan.

Personal logo GeoffQRF Sponsoring Member of TMP05 Nov 2009 11:36 p.m. PST

That's good to hear Drew. Will be interesting to see if this generates some post war movement.

Personal logo Barks1 Supporting Member of TMP06 Nov 2009 3:30 a.m. PST

Thanks for the summary, Drew. Looking forwards to the new website- please have lots of pretty pictures!

I feel my project for 2010 coming on…

Personal logo GeoffQRF Sponsoring Member of TMP06 Nov 2009 4:07 a.m. PST

Our M54s should be timed just about right then ;-)

Siege Works Studios06 Nov 2009 4:10 a.m. PST

I should also add that Flashpoints US Army, US Marines and Anzac ranges also include a LRRG, Marine Force Recon and SAS blister for each respective force.

PrimusPilus06 Nov 2009 6:12 a.m. PST

Hi Drew,

I saw the APC from Flashpoint at Lismore earlier this year and was extremely impressed. I hope your webpage, gallery and on-line store …etc are up & running soon.

I am also interested to hear about the new rules you have been play testing.

Happy Gaming,

Allan

Personal logo Mishima Supporting Member of TMP06 Nov 2009 9:17 a.m. PST

Yes, these look very nice. <shameless plug> would work very nicely with my Riverine models </shameless plug>. Definately planning to pic up the AAMGs at least

WarWizard06 Nov 2009 9:22 a.m. PST

Is there a FOW Vietnam Yahoo group yet?

Derek H06 Nov 2009 2:48 p.m. PST

Yes, these look very nice. <shameless plug> would work very nicely with my Riverine models </shameless plug>. Definately planning to pic up the AAMGs at least

If you're going to do a plug, never mind a shameless plug, you should at leat include a link.

I don't have a Scoobie who you are, but I'm interested in riverine.

Arrigo06 Nov 2009 3:08 p.m. PST

I think he is Gomi designs!

Siege Works Studios06 Nov 2009 6:20 p.m. PST

Thanks guys for the positive feedbacks. The M113's are very cool looking models. We have ACAv and APC variants and are working on Mortar and other variants as well! Here is the link to our new M113's:

link

Personal logo Bravo Six Supporting Member of TMP06 Nov 2009 10:42 p.m. PST

Yes, Mishima is Gomi Designs.

-B6

Black Bull07 Nov 2009 12:03 p.m. PST

Look nice but let down by the NVA recoiless rifle crew they appear to be looking at it rather than crewing it.

Anyone know which type recoiless rifle it is ?

Personal logo aecurtis Supporting Member of TMP Fezian07 Nov 2009 3:19 p.m. PST

Looks like it's supposed to be a B-10 or Type 65, but with some details exaggerated.

Allen

kyoteblue Supporting Member of TMP07 Nov 2009 8:10 p.m. PST

I hope I can buy some of the choppers.

Siege Works Studios08 Nov 2009 2:32 a.m. PST

We are getting the RCL crew and other NVA weapons figures resculpted which is why none of the NVA Weapons packs are available yet. The RCL is a 106mm.

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