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Caliban04 Nov 2009 2:45 p.m. PST

Finally got my act together and took photos of Hastati and Principes I finished in October. Figures by 1st Corps:

caliban-somewhen.blogspot.com

Augustus Supporting Member of TMP04 Nov 2009 3:56 p.m. PST

Very nice sir!

Mithridates04 Nov 2009 4:03 p.m. PST

C

Nice shots – have just done a small unit of 1st Corps as imitiation legionaries for Pontics. I notice you went to slightly deeper bases to accomodate your chaps. I had some issues with fitting them on 20mm deep bases!

Well cast but really too small – they are OK when alongside Crusader figures but hobbits against Renegade or Essex.

Your Essex Pontic light cavalry has inspired me to continue with my task of revamping some Hinchliffe Greek light cavalry – with shields and LBM transfers they will be fine for Pontic light horse.

Like you I used some Essex Seleucids as Pontic brazen shields (with Crusader embossed shields). Still not entirely happy with the figures I have for the Pontic noble cavalry (Battlestandard Late Persians).

Cheers

Garry

aecurtis Fezian04 Nov 2009 4:59 p.m. PST

"Well cast but really too small…"

Hardly, if one is using them with Ranges such as the old Foundry range, or with Gripping Beast, or with Newline, or with Magister Militum (ex-Navgator). Clearly you need to do as I have done and have "small 28mm" Republican Army, and a "large 28mm" Republican Roman army, with corresponding Carthaginian armies! grin

Renegade? Pah. Silly giants by any reasonable measure!

Allen

Caliban05 Nov 2009 2:22 a.m. PST

Thanks for the comments, folks. Garry/Mithridates, I used Essex Seleucid Agema as part of the Pontic army, mainly because I couldn't think of anything else at the time. The horse is nicely caparisoned, and maybe with another rider it would do for Pontic aristocrats. If I get time to finish reworking them, I'll post some photos. Let us know how you get on with the Hinchliffe Greeks; they sound ideal for Pontic light horse.

I agree with you about the base depths. 1st Corps are quite actively posed, and I couldn't see how I could possibly get them onto 20mm depth bases. Also, the rules we are using give Romans the ability to deploy in a single rank, and 20mm just doesn't look right.

I can see why Allen has been accused of starting some sort of earth-bound hypermass; I'm struggling to do one Republican Roman army, never mind one "small" and one "large". All that metal! Of course, he could just be joking, couldn't he!?

I never even remotely considered Renegade, though.

Cheers to all
Paul

Personal logo BigRedBat Sponsoring Member of TMP05 Nov 2009 4:09 a.m. PST

Great progress Paul! I wish I was painting as fast, this month.

There's certainly nothing wrong with a lot of the smaller ranges, and some advantages; more choice, for example. I felt I had to go either small or large, and jumped for the latter. If I had already owned more of the smaller figures I might have jumped the other way.

Simon

Mithridates05 Nov 2009 2:58 p.m. PST

The only thing wrong with 'smaller' armies is that my eyes are not what they used to be. I do have one of those head sets with magnifiers but when/if I venture into 15mm I may need jewellers' glasses!

It's the fiddily bits – leather surrounds on shoulder pieces for instance – that are a pain.

Given that I buy from a range of manufacturers Allen's notion of small and large armies is not that far from the truth. Now, what we need is a comprehensive range of comparison shots – Allen, can you oblige please?

Caliban06 Dec 2009 6:27 a.m. PST

Just posted three updates: Legio II Triarii; Legio II command; and some shots of the two legions side by side. The quality of the third set in particular isn't great, but I hope it gives some indication of how they look en masse. The observant ones will note the long shadows; believe it or not, I took these photos at midday when we finally got some sunshine in Scotland. I grabbed the opportunity when it came:

caliban-somewhen.blogspot.com

Personal logo BigRedBat Sponsoring Member of TMP06 Dec 2009 9:15 a.m. PST

Those look great, Paul! A real impression of mass.

Cheers, Simon

Caliban06 Dec 2009 10:31 a.m. PST

Cheers, Simon. I've been following your report of Ruspina -may the best Roman win…

Paul

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