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Cuirassier02 Nov 2009 7:36 p.m. PST

How many casualties did the French Imperial Guard suffer during the Waterloo campaign (not just the battle of Waterloo)? I have seen conflicting info on this. I need some help.

Casualties suffered at Charleroi?
Casualties suffered at Gilly?
Casualties suffered at Quatre Bras?
Casualties suffered at Ligny?
Casualties suffered at Waterloo?

Does anyone have the casualty figures by unit?

Thanks in advance.

Personal logo vtsaogames Supporting Member of TMP02 Nov 2009 8:19 p.m. PST

My guesses:
Charleroi – less than 100
Gilly – a few
Quatre Bras – none to very few
Ligny – hundreds
Waterloo – thousands, very, very heavy. The cavalry made numerous charges, the Young Guard was heavily engaged at Plancenoit, the newer Grenadier and Chasseur regiments attacked Wellington's center and were routed, the old regiments covered the retreat of everyone else and were creamed – except for 1/1 Chassuers who were guarding the baggage.

Cuirassier04 Nov 2009 7:08 p.m. PST

General Letort, commander of the Dragoons of the French Guard, was killed at Gilly. The infuriated dragoons cut to pieces the Prussian battalion.

There is a graphic description of these charges in the regimental history of the 28th Infantry (a former Berg regiment, French ally): "Although several cavalrymen managed to break into the square, they were all bayoneted. Even after such a show of resistance, the enemy tried to persuade the troops to change sides. General Letort, commander of the French Guard Dragoons, recognised the Fusiliers by their Berg uniform. He thought that, since the hopelessness of their position would be obvious to them, their loyalty might waver.
He rode up and demanded they desert the Prussian army.
A shot rang out and Letort fell dead from his saddle. Fusilier Kaufmann of the 12th Company had leapt out of the square and given the enemy general his answer, in powder and lead. The battalion continued to withdraw but just before it reached the wood, the enemy cavalry approached again. The 10th Company faced front while the others continued their movement. At this critical moment, the full force of the enemy cavalry charge hit home."

The Guard Dragoons avenged the death of their beloved Letort, the F/28th Infantry lost 13 officers and 614 men that day!

Steven H Smith04 Nov 2009 8:49 p.m. PST

One can get the officer numbers from:

Martinien:

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Martinien Supp:

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AllanFMountford05 Nov 2009 9:44 a.m. PST

Approximately 7,000 officers and other ranks.

- Allan

General Brock05 Nov 2009 9:34 p.m. PST

Hay Cuirassier,

you sure your not a Zouave Eh? grin

Regards
James

Cuirassier08 Nov 2009 3:25 p.m. PST

Hi GB!

Zouave was already taken, so I had to come up with a new one.


Kevin Kiley helped me out.

Totals are 716 officers and 19,977 enlisted men as of 16 June 1815:

Grenadier Division: 138 officers/ 3,917 enlisted

Chasseur Division:132/4471

Young Guard Division:117/4166

Heavy Cavalry:99/1619

Light Cavalry:106/1971

Sailors and Engineers:6/213

Artillery (including train, artificiers, and ouvriers):93/2969

Supply Train and artificers: 25/651

Field pieces: 104


Strength returns 23-26 June 1815

Grenadiers:79/1240

Chasseurs:60/1312

Young Guard:63/535

Heavy Cavalry:59/679

Light Cavalry:56/1143

Sailors and Engineers:5/166

Artillery:27/1367

Total: 7580 effectives
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My friend, Paul, also helped me out.

Compiled from Armies at Waterloo By Scott Bowden:

OLD GUARD……….18th June……26th June……%loss

1st Grenadiers……1,280…………644…………..50

2nd Grenadiers……1,090………….374…………..66

1st Chasseurs……1,307………….588…………..55

2nd Chasseurs……1,163………….375………….68

TOTAL……………….4,840…………1,981……… …59


MIDDLE GUARD

3rd Grenadiers……1,164………….201………….84

4th Grenadiers…….520………….100………….83

3rd Chasseurs…….1,602…………165………….85

4th Chasseurs……841…………..244………….71

TOTAL……………..4,I27………….710………… .82


YOUNG GUARD

1st Voltigeurs……1,219…………196………….84

3nd Voltigeurs……967………….146………….87

1st Tirailleurs…….1,109………….92………….92

3rd Tirailleurs…….988………….164…………..84

TOTAL………………4,283…………598………….86

OVERALL …………13,250……….3,289…………75
TOTALS

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