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Mal Wright Fezian30 Oct 2009 6:43 p.m. PST

OK!
I have strong opinions. But they are my opinions. They are based on 55 years in the hobby during which I have been involved in running clubs and conventions, then private wargame groups. I have lots of experience in the commercial side of it. I have been involved in making masters for manufacturers. I've given lectures on military history and also on wargames. Appeared on TV and radio talk back discussing military history and wargames. I write and in the past have produced several wargames rule books, which is something I have now returned too, having several more about to be published, or being written. I am a member of numerous on line wargames sites and watch their trends with great interest. At conventions and events I take the time to stop and talk to people who come up to say hello. I receive a lot of email per week and I make sure to answer the questions regardless of language or how smart/silly the questions are.

My opinions may be strong. But they are based on considerable contact within the hobby. Not only with the actual wargamers, but with those who write for the hobby and design product.

I thank everyone for their contributions to the discussions on TMP. It all goes into colouring my thoughts one way or the other on these issues. My opinions eventually do of course, still have to be my own as I do not subscribe to being a 'follower' of certain aspects of the hobby.

I always get somewhat frustrated when I see *the obvious* being ignored. I get frustrated when I see people running events, who just have not listened to the pool from which they draw support. I find some of it downright illogical when they promote something stupid that is not sponsoring them, in detriment of something that IS sponsoring them.

The objectives of a convention must be clearly defined and everyone involved know them. Otherwise it is pointless to try to run one.

If an event is to promote membership, then all steps must be taken to ensure anything a potential member needs to know, is available at the event via handouts and people to talk with them about membership.

If to promote the hobby, then all aspects need to be covered, after deciding exactly what you want to promote.

If you have sponsors you must ensure your sponsors products are well placed, seen and mentioned. Their reasons for sponsoring are commercially based. They are not there for the fun of it like the wargamers may be. Say who they are and what they have done for the event.

Visitors must be made to feel welcome. If they have shown enough interest to attend, then the least you can do is to show some interest that they have attended.

Venues must be well lit, well signed internally and externally.

Promotion is essential. You cannot just rely on people knowing it was on last year and so deciding to come again this year. You must remind them. You must excite them. You must provide reasons why they want to come.

Having excited them to come, you must then come through with things that will meet their expectations.

Advertising is essential. It is also multi directional. You cannot just put up notices in Primary schools if you want to attract adults. You cannot just advertise in adult media if you want to attract kids. You cannot rely on word of mouth if you want to attract new people. Advertising must take place via the avenues that will reach the people you wish to reach. Its quite simple really.

Advertising therefore needs to be across a wide spectrum of the things that will be at the convention. If you advertise one thing they will not somehow magically know about the rest.

You must provide reasons to come and then tell people what those reasons are. You cannot expect they will come along and find out when they get there.

Advertising is usually backed by a sponsor. This is all the more reason to ensure the sponsors needs are met at the event and in letting people know their product will be there.

You do not advertise and promote companies that have not backed you just because you personally favour their product. Especially if this is to the detriment of those that have. Always back your sponsors.

When people have been complaining about issues for years….bad food…bad toilets….lack of access….crowded venue….lack of traders….you do something about it.

Correct the problems. Dont just ignore them. These things were obviously important to the people who complained, so do something.

If some companies believe their marketing or intrusion into wargames is so strong that they dont have to support you, because non thinkers will do it free, put on something else.
Do not be constrained within what they want to happen, to their benefit. I can think of two who will usually only get involved if they are running an event, or they can dictate the terms of the event. That is fine for them, but does not promote the hobby beyond what they want to promote. Instead, go wide. Cover all interests. Draw in people from all areas of the hobby.

If you have groups within your event, that would over throw what your aims are, exclude them, or restrict them. Your aims must be achieved. That is what you are running the event for.

I am irritated by poorly run events and that irritation is based on what I have seen for years. It is an irritation that stems from sheer frustration that people dont correct these problems or deal with the issues.

They seldom have a clear plan laid out, and any event you run must have one.

What are your doing it for?
What are you wanting to achieve?
How are you going to achieve it?
How can you ensure nothing ruins the plan?
Do you have emergency plans to cover unexpected problems?
Do you have a suitable venue?
How are you going to finance it?
How are you going to cater for it if you achieve your aim?
Do you have people that can carry out the plan?
Do they understand the plan and its objectives?
Are they intelligent enough to carry out those objectives and appreciate the need to stick to them?

To achieve all that you not only need followers, you need leaders. And those leaders must clearly understand the objectives. They must also have the initiative and know how to step in and deal with situations without having to refer back to a committee or someone senior. Time and time again at one of our major conventions, I have approached an 'official' with a query about the venue or some aspect of the convention, only to have that 'official' say they will have to go and ask. Indeed not one time at that particular event, have I known any official to know what to do, or take the initiative and resolve something. They always have to find out. And as a result you are left waiting. In one case it was for the entire length of the event before a committee could meet and 'make a decision' on something that any normal intelligent official could have resolved on the spot.
Such an experience leaves the person who inquired feeling frustrated and they will take that with them when they leave. It is far preferable that they leave feeling happy with the event and will pass on the good news. This particularly applies to traders and sponsors. They are your life blood and their non attendance or refusal to sponsor in future can break you show.

My bad experiences are based on personal observation, as are the good ones. Those good and bad observations are what form opinions, and I have mine. It is unfortunate that while I see many good things, it is usually the bad things that people remember when they leave. That is part of human nature. Your job is therefore to ensure that when they do leave, they carry with them all sorts of positive thoughts about your event.

People say to me, and its a common excuse, that conventions are mostly run by amateurs who mean well and should not be dealt with too harshly. That is very true and I acknowledge the work of the enthusiastic amateurs. However even an amateur can sit down and make a plan, seek advice from others with experience and draw on that. And regardless if they should or should not be dealt with harshly, the fact remains that they are in charge of an event. They must live up to it and be responsible for how it turns out. Which all means that well meaning amateur or not, when people leave they will leave with impressions of how the event went. Not that it was some poor well meaning amateur. The wider public are just not that sympathetic. If they are promised something, they expect it to be delivered. Amateurs or not.

aecurtis Fezian30 Oct 2009 7:30 p.m. PST

Jeebus, he's running for the HMGS-East BoD!

Mal Wright Fezian30 Oct 2009 7:40 p.m. PST

If elected I will not serve

Yeah but if you were elected someone else serves the drinks.

Mal Wright Fezian30 Oct 2009 7:42 p.m. PST

Ha Ha Allen.
But would they understand the logic of my thinking???? grin

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP30 Oct 2009 7:44 p.m. PST

If elected, I will plunder the treasury. If there is anything left by the time I get my hands n it..

Mal Wright Fezian30 Oct 2009 8:16 p.m. PST

Ah…but if its run correctly, there will be some left in the treasury, and thus sufficient for you to be convicted of serious plundering, confined to a dungeon and your hands firmly secured in irons!

Theword30 Oct 2009 8:44 p.m. PST

Mal.. since you've written your original post with such passion… might I suggest you think about putting together a "how to run a successful war gaming convention" booklet.

Things that seem obvious to you may not be to others.

I think this would certainly help people if they were open minded enough to take a look…

TW.

Mal Wright Fezian30 Oct 2009 10:33 p.m. PST

If they wont listen to some kindly advice, I doubt they will read the booklet!
My passion comes from so many obvious things being left undone by people who have been told they need to be done better.

Dan 05530 Oct 2009 10:38 p.m. PST

… might I suggest you think about putting together a "how to run a successful war gaming convention" booklet.

yes yes yes

If they wont listen to some kindly advice, I doubt they will read the booklet!

no no no

There's a bunch of us "in between" who could use the help.

rusty musket31 Oct 2009 5:29 a.m. PST

Any specific complaint, Mal? Or is it just 55 years of pentup irritation? Really, I am wondering.

Grizwald31 Oct 2009 5:34 a.m. PST

"The booklet is a good idea Mal."

He's already written half the text in that first post!

50 Dylan CDs and an Icepick31 Oct 2009 12:03 p.m. PST

[I always get somewhat frustrated when I see *the obvious* being ignored.]

Now, see, that's interesting. I always get frustrated when I see it being repeated.

Tumbleweed Supporting Member of TMP31 Oct 2009 12:22 p.m. PST

Mal:

What kind of master figures did you create, and for whom?

McWong7331 Oct 2009 3:03 p.m. PST

Mal, some good thoughts in the above. Speaking from experience running tournaments in Sydney – which really are a seperate, and frankly easier to deliver beast – the biggest trouble has been finding people savvy enough to contribute their time and skills to running a show.

If the organisers at any level get any form of renumeration or compensation for their efforts then they're no longer nice amateurs and frankly you can be as brutal as you like in your opinion of them. I get a small amount of financial compensation for running tournaments at MOAB, and I expect to get honest and open (which can mean harsh) feedback from the punters on what they like and don't like. In fact I welcome and encourage it, otherwise you don't know where and what to improve.

If you ever want to come to Sydney to run a show let us know.

DJCoaltrain31 Oct 2009 6:49 p.m. PST

kyoteblue 30 Oct 2009 7:34 p.m. PST
If nominated I will not run. If elected I will not serve.

*NJH: Clever fellow. Playing hard to get is a great strategy.

Therefore, I nominate Kyoteblue.

He's obviously thought out a clear and unequivocal platform. firetruck

Mal Wright Fezian31 Oct 2009 8:38 p.m. PST

I inspected the venue today. Really large. Also lots of room for expansion in later years if required. The grounds are really lovely and beside the food we will arrange there are a whole range of other choices within a short walk. Chinese, India, Pizza, Subway, Hamburgers, Fish and Chips etc.

We have arranged some of the daily tourist buses to stop at the door of the venue for those who wish to go off and look around. This is of course mostly aimed at the wives and children. On Friday we were able to arrange an event bus for some special, extra travelling about.

I now also have a professional 'event coordinator' who will be in charge of helping wives and children find things to do. A big Easter Egg hunt and so forth. She is also arranging the wine tasting and will generally make sure that all the things outside wargames, happen the way visitors will wish.

The venue is within walking distance….or staggering distance of three wineries where they do free tasting! With a reasonable walk of several others too.

cturnitsa31 Oct 2009 9:55 p.m. PST

Tumbleweed – I believe that Mal is responsible for the very useful "Really Useful Guns" range. link

Mal – help me out if I am mistaken (or take the credit for a really useful line of figures).

Chuck

Mal Wright Fezian01 Nov 2009 1:36 a.m. PST

What kind of master figures did you create, and for whom?

As well as the Really Useful Guns range, I have also produced quite a lot of masters for QRF. Mostly artillery, but also for civilian cars and some battlefield wrecks.

I also paint cover art for various wargames rules. I have written several wargames books years ago. I have just completed some that are about to be published by Clash of Arms. I am also writing a series of scenario books for a New York publisher.

Mal Wright Fezian01 Nov 2009 1:41 a.m. PST

If I can't get to Baltimore how am I going to get to OZ ??

You could ask the President to make you an Ambassador?

(I can just imagine Kyoteblue greeting all the dignitaries "Dude!". )

Theword01 Nov 2009 3:08 p.m. PST

Mal you seem quite anti Games Workshop.. maybe I'm just reading your tone incorrectly..but if you are why so?

TW.

Mal Wright Fezian01 Nov 2009 4:05 p.m. PST

but if you are why so?

Its obviously not practicable to say so on TMP without ending up in the dawghouse and the response so badly hacked by the censor that it looks like a rant, rather than an explanation.

Mal Wright Fezian01 Nov 2009 6:36 p.m. PST

Errrr….ummmmm…… Peace! huh?

DJCoaltrain01 Nov 2009 6:37 p.m. PST

kyoteblue 31 Oct 2009 9:40 p.m. PST
Oh thanks DJCoaltrain…..If I can't get to Baltimore how am I going to get to OZ ???

*NJH: Tornado, or balloon – your choice.

aecurtis Fezian01 Nov 2009 6:55 p.m. PST

Air fares to Sydney are down at the moment, due to increased number of carriers on the route.

Mal Wright Fezian01 Nov 2009 7:33 p.m. PST

Hey if I'm Ambassador I want an Air Force Plane to take me!!

What if they drop you in Austria by mistake?

Etranger01 Nov 2009 10:08 p.m. PST

Kyoteblue, as Bongolesian Ambassador you do get to call on Bongolesian Airlines for assistance………

Mal Wright Fezian01 Nov 2009 10:11 p.m. PST

No. But he gets to call FOR assistance for Bongolesian Airlines.

Mal Wright Fezian02 Nov 2009 2:20 a.m. PST

But you can rely on QANTAS!
They will fly you to the nearest airfield.

Mal Wright Fezian02 Nov 2009 3:17 a.m. PST

They will fly you to the nearest airfield.

Of course the landing may be a bit rough. The Noarlunga airfield usually only handles Tiger Moths. evil grin

Etranger02 Nov 2009 8:01 p.m. PST

Do they still do parachute drops at Aldinga…?

Mal Wright Fezian02 Nov 2009 10:06 p.m. PST

Do they still do parachute drops at Aldinga…?

Oh for sure. But rarely from Qantas passenger jets!

Mal Wright Fezian03 Nov 2009 4:21 a.m. PST

Some people was just born chicken!

vonLoudon03 Nov 2009 11:12 a.m. PST

If elected, I will procrastinate and screw around like I do now. I'm afraid to steal the treasury, because in my world, all dishonest people get caught except for __________.
Can't answer that here. My Dad attended Airborne jump school three times. I think we're all covered.

Farstar03 Nov 2009 5:49 p.m. PST

Mal you seem quite anti Games Workshop.. maybe I'm just reading your tone incorrectly..but if you are why so?

If he plays any of the "off" games from GW, the behavior of GW's division in Australia in the last decade is more than enough ammunition for lots and lots of "anti".

Mal Wright Fezian03 Nov 2009 7:39 p.m. PST

I honestly think that it Bleeped texts free thinking and guides people along a course of purchasing that is the idea of the manufacturer, replacing that of wargamers having their own ideas.
I really like to see people apply their ideas, skill and individualism to wargaming. Therefore its only natural that I will not be in support of a system that encourages them to follow restricted limits and figures.
Generally, wargamers show some incredible ideas at conventions, along with wonderful modelling skills to get the idea across to those viewing it. WARHAMMER gets their product across, their scenery, their paints, their rules…..what's left for individual initiative?

crhkrebs04 Nov 2009 4:58 a.m. PST

So what? Why do you care? It's obviously not for you, but why Bleeped text on another's parade? Many people want different things from this miniatures hobby. So let them. How does this attitude reconcile with, "Cover all interests. Draw in people from all areas of the hobby."

Ralph

Nick The Lemming04 Nov 2009 6:22 a.m. PST

I believe it was the fashion at the time to wear an onion on one's belt.

PaintsByNumbers06 Nov 2009 12:47 a.m. PST

>How does this attitude reconcile with, "Cover all interests. Draw in people from all areas of the hobby.
>

Um. once again, I'm having difficulty finding that in the HMGS Charter. Can you direct me to the correct paragraph?

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