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Oxiana27 Oct 2009 2:51 a.m. PST

I'm currently looking for a new project, and the Incas seem to repeatedly catch my eye. I'm reading up, and browsing 28mm ranges, but I thought I'd ask for some advice.

I like small projects that I can complete pretty quickly, but come back and add to later. So, I'm looking at buying not more than 100 minis.

So, how best to carve up that magic hundred in terms of balancing Incas and Conquistadors?

And, can anyone recommend a good system for games with this number of minis?

Thanks.

Rich Bliss27 Oct 2009 4:10 a.m. PST

Don't do any any Conquistadors and run Incas vs Incas.

RavenscraftCybernetics27 Oct 2009 5:20 a.m. PST

incan warriors vs village hunters.
didnt you see Apocalypto?

nycjadie27 Oct 2009 7:12 a.m. PST

I've read that as few as 200 Conquistadors took on as many as 10,000 Incas, however, they conscripted many different groups to fight with them. You could imagine that a few mounted Conquistadors could do quite a bit of damage. An interesting game might be a few Conquistadors fighting with many Incas against a larger Inca group.

Steve
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KnightTemplarr27 Oct 2009 3:50 p.m. PST

Have you looked at Gloire and Among the Warparties from RatTrap?

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streetline27 Oct 2009 5:59 p.m. PST

For all it's known issues – have you considered DBA? Or even better, Hordes of the Things?

HarryHotspurEsq27 Oct 2009 11:01 p.m. PST

I'm going to blow my own mixed metaphor and taut "Irregular Wars" (again).

The 13 page rules set including 15 army lists for the period 1519-1625 is available to download here: link

It's had some good feedback from the original release and is now in version 1.2.2 (the second 2 relates to revised army lists for better historical accuracy).

I don't think we'll be making any more changes in the near future as the rules now seem to work great whether your in the tropics of the foot hills of the Andes or the bogs of Ireland.

Designed for 15mm but with built in variations for 25.

Oxiana28 Oct 2009 2:35 a.m. PST

Thanks everyone so far. I've just downloaded Irregular Wars, and will give it a good read over coffee.

But just to go back to the original question, if I have 100 figures, how many of those should be Incas, and how many should be Conquistadors to give a balanced game?

crhkrebs28 Oct 2009 3:58 a.m. PST

If you want to be historically accurate you would, unfortunately, have 1 Conquistador and 99 Inca.

For a Fun skirmish game how about 10 Conquistadors with 20 Peruvian allies. That leaves 70 Inca. They could be set up as:

Apu on Palaquin with Porters (From Outpost)
40 Inca warriors
10 Huaminca Elite Warriors
10 Bleeped texti Warriors (or Chanca or Colla)
5 Anti Forest archers

I think that adds up to about 70 Inca. See if that works for you.

Ralph

crhkrebs28 Oct 2009 3:59 a.m. PST

I forgot the Bleep filter won't allow C*U*N*T*I* Warriors.

Connard Sage28 Oct 2009 9:58 a.m. PST

Do they come from Sc**thorpe? :)

You could have Anti warriors too. They came from the fourth quarter of the empire.

George Gush's army lists for his Renaissance rules have lists for Inca and conquistador. If you can find a copy they're worth a look.

HarryHotspurEsq28 Oct 2009 3:16 p.m. PST

I used to have a crush on a girl from Scunthorpe…

Irregular Wars Conquistadors vs Inca would give (as on suggested set of options):

COLONIAL SPANISH (Conquistadors)
4x Mounted conquistadors
8x Sword and buckler armed foot
1x Priest
2x gunners (with one artillery piece)
9x Indian allies/mercenaries
Total of 24 figures

MESOAMERICANS (Inca)
16x Elite warriors
18x javelin/dart/arrow throwers
18x Warriors
12x Archers and/or slingers
1x Shaman
Total of 65 figures

Any further figures purchased would be focused at other optional units, eg. warhounds or crossbowmen for the conquistadors.

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