"Perry Scale Drift" Topic

Has anyone noticed that the new plastic Perry French Cuirassiers/Carabiniers are smaller than the metal equivalent Cuirassiers, horses and figures both? The difference in size of the heads and the petite size of the new horses is quite noticeable.

The Chevaux Legers Lanciers are smaller also, again noticeably the heads, but not to the extent of the plastic French cavalry.

The French infantry are slightly smaller in the plastic version but again not to this extent.

Do readers feel this is a problem? I'm wondering about the new Hussars?

Yes…even in the plastic inf box, the guys in March Order are smaller than the skirmishers…some of this has to do w/ the pose, but they are clearly smaller…I bought two boxes of plastics…painted one set & gave the other away and quickly went back to metal…

Yes, I also noticed this on their plastic French Inf figs but it didn't seem too much of a difference.

However I didn't know this was a problem with their new French Heavy Cav…is it really that noticable or will they blend in together? I recall seeing a comparison photo posted of the metal and plastic side by side and while the plastic version looked smaller it didn't appear major.

I will let you know when I get my order of French Heavy Cav…which really depends on the ongoing problems in the UK postal system…sadly my first order got lost in the post…no doubt some postie has been biding his strike time building up some units of cavalry to attack the management of Royal Mail!

There is definitely a small scale creep downwards. The plastic revolution has involved what I regard as small figures, but then again my armies are Elite, Front Rank, Connoisseur and some selected Old Glory.
I suppose it depends on whether you have been collecting Foundry and Perry, or Sash and Sabre. although I only have a few samples of that range.
I've ordered 10 boxes of Wargames Factory Romans. I know they have got mixed reviews but North Star were selling them at £12.00 GBP a box, and I already have a lot of 10mm Imperial stuff. I'll wait and see how they look.
The same applies to the ECW stuff from Warlord, I thought the free figure I got with a magazine a while back was very small. Maybe I've just been looking at my son's Warhammer stuff for too long.

I have heard that the plastic 95th Perry Rifles are much larger than their metal brothers.

Okay, I have had a look at the Perry website and found at least one comparative photo of metal and plastic figs. If you scroll halfway down the page you see the French Inf.

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From the looks of the French Inf look right. I have had a look at the metal and plastic together that I have and confirmed this to be the case.

However, following the comment about a difference between the plastic and metal British Rifles I have done some checking. There is a clear difference between the two, with the metal ones slightly bigger. Funny thing is that the rifles are the same size but the difference in head sizes (especially the faces) is noticable. The backpacks for the metal are slightly wider too.

So what gives? Is this a production problem?

Sorry guys, but I think this is one of those total non-issues, if you WANT to find differences between the metal and plastic Perry's you can, but if you paint them up, stick them in a unit, there really are no significant differences between the figures.
I took 2 boxes of French infantry and mixed in sufficient metals to bulk them out to 3 x 36 man btns.
If you weren't familar with the ranges you couldn't tell which are metal and which aren't.
pics here:

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Christot, as stated, the issue isn't with the Perry French Inf – which work great with their metal – but with later plastic sets. As 'Flight Sergeant Reggie' said in his original post, it is about a scale drift, namely in more recent releases.

Take a look at British Inf set and put the metal and plastic rifle figures up next to one another and you will see there is quite a bit of difference, notably in the size of the heads. As stated, I am not sure about the new Perry French Heavy cav as I haven't rec'd mine yet but this also appears to be an issue from what I have heard.

The best way to examine this is to simply put the figures up to one another and compare sizes. If I knew how to post a photo to this thread I would. Perhaps someone else can help.

FYI, I really love the new plastic figures, as the conversion possibilities are great! Hence, I am not one of those "I hate plastics" or "Plastic figures are toys" types…I don't care what medium the figures are made in as long as they are good!

To post pics you need to put them somewhere else on the WWW, (photo-bucket, flckr etc) then copy and paste the link here. Am interested to see exactly what you mean.
cheers chris

The following link has a comparison of a Perry plastic and metal cuirassier figure:
TMP link

hmmmm…"quite noticable differences"?….like I said, maybe if you want to find them

The plastic cuirassier looks the same size in that photo. The scabbered looks much finer on the plastic figure too.

Hi guys,

Thanks to 'Ligniere' for the link to the comparison photo I mentioned earlier. I couldn't locate it. From the photo there are some differences, not in the overall size but in the size of the elements (head, helmet, etc.).

Just to be clear before you stake me up for execution on the cross, I previously said:

"As stated, I am not sure about the new Perry French Heavy cav as I haven't rec'd mine yet but this also appears to be an issue from what I have heard."

That said, there is a noticable size difference in the heads and some equipment of the British Rifle figures (between plastic and metal), which supports 'Flight Sergeant Reggie's' original propostion (remember, he started this thread, not me…so hang him first and save me for later [LOL]) about a drift in size between plastic and metal figs.

I am still waiting on Royal Mail to deliver my replacement French Hvy Cav boxes (lets hope they don't steal/lose these)…so I will wait to comment until then. All I can say at this stage as I sincerely hope that their isn't a 'scale drift' between the metal and plastic figs, as I really want to mix the two together to form varied units. I am sure that is what the 'Terrible Twins' intended.

Love and kisses to all!