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Thunderstroke24 Oct 2009 7:34 a.m. PST

I've seen brief mentions of these Franco-Prussian War rules on other threads; they sound interesting enough to jab my curiosity.

Could someone who has read or played them share some details?

Also, where in the US may I find a copy?

Dale Hurtt24 Oct 2009 10:36 a.m. PST

I have also heard whispers about them, and am interested. No hard information, however.

advocate24 Oct 2009 12:38 p.m. PST

It may have been me that mentioned them :o)

They are a 'square bashing' set of rules and allow for very large battles to be fought (including actions on the flanks of the miniatures battle, troops marching onto the table from other areas) and a full campaign system (for the whole war) to go along with it.

I don't know of anyone who supplies them in the US though.

vtsaogames24 Oct 2009 1:12 p.m. PST

I ordered them direct from England. They arrived in NYC in less than a week. They take Paypal so there's no problem with currency. I have not played the rules (yet) but have asked questions of the designer – answered within two days and am writing up a first impression review. They have some interesting ideas.

Martin Rapier24 Oct 2009 1:15 p.m. PST

"They are a 'square bashing' set of rules "

I'm intrigued now. Do you mean they are like RFCMs 'Square Bashing' ie they use a grid?

Thunderstroke24 Oct 2009 2:36 p.m. PST

I happen to be one of the people who loves Square Bashing, PBI, and those sets from RFCM, so that is nice to know. :)

I'll admit, the squares put me off trying those games for several years, but once I gave PBI a go, it was obvious that the concept added so much more than might possibly be lost in not using measurements…

Mollinary25 Oct 2009 3:04 a.m. PST

As Gablenz, I wrote a reasonably detailed description on the TMP thread Campaign System for FPW, a couple of years ago. Am still playing them, and can highly recommend them, particularly for those of us who like really large battles. As far as I know they are only available from Realistic Modelling in the UK, but I am sure they post across the pond. They are not very bulky, so I would not expect postage to be too bad. They use 10" squares to represent 1km, and require no measuring of ranges. I found it strange at first, but have now got used to it, and am very grateful for the way it gets rid of some of the worst wargaming "gaminess".


vtsaogames25 Oct 2009 5:56 a.m. PST

Mollinary, a link to your old thread would be helpful.

Martin Rapier25 Oct 2009 1:02 p.m. PST

I did find an old discussion about it, sounds like it uses company sized stands, so to do something even quite small like Froeschwiller is going to need a fair bit of stuff.

I went with a 1km grid for big ninetenth century battles, but with regimental sized stands, which does at least mean you got a chance of doing something like Koeniggratz in a reasonable length of time.

Mollinary26 Oct 2009 12:05 a.m. PST


Roger that, but I am not clear how to put up a link to a TMP thread, which is why I quoted the thread title exactly. If you search titles, it comes up first time. Hope that clarifies.


Martin Rapier26 Oct 2009 2:50 a.m. PST

Thread link here:

TMP link

Jamolas26 Oct 2009 12:51 p.m. PST

Vincent emailed about the stuff he was putting on TMP – and very fair comments they are too

Rules are from Keith Warren of Realistic in UK and were to comlpliment his range of ready made scenary but as we moved from period to period sets of rules followed. The 1866 was our first set and uses the squares but the other set apporach the topic at hand in different ways with as many of them without tape measures as possible.

IR1Lothringen26 Oct 2009 4:14 p.m. PST

Try this link – cost is 13UK + postage



williamb20 Oct 2019 9:44 p.m. PST

A little thread necromancy. Heard about these rules and went looking for them. the above links no longer work. All their rules are listed here link and available from Wargame Vault

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