Help support TMP


"ACW Cavalry: Hats, Kepis, or Forage?" Topic


9 Posts

All members in good standing are free to post here. Opinions expressed here are solely those of the posters, and have not been cleared with nor are they endorsed by The Miniatures Page.

Remember that you can Stifle members so that you don't have to read their posts.

For more information, see the TMP FAQ.


Back to the ACW Discussion Message Board


Areas of Interest

American Civil War

Featured Hobby News Article


Featured Link


Top-Rated Ruleset

Volley & Bayonet


Rating: gold star gold star gold star gold star gold star gold star gold star 


Featured Showcase Article

1:72nd IMEX Union Artillery

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian adds artillery to his soft-plastic Union forces.


Featured Workbench Article


Featured Book Review


924 hits since 23 Oct 2009
©1994-2026 Bill Armintrout
Comments or corrections?

CPBelt23 Oct 2009 12:53 p.m. PST

What type of hat did Union and CSA cavalry wear? Did they vary by unit, year, and theater? Mix and match?

Terry L23 Oct 2009 1:00 p.m. PST

CSA was a mix while the Union were more standard with the kepi.

Rudysnelson23 Oct 2009 1:36 p.m. PST

Mix and match. Slouch hats were desired by many as they kept the rain and sun off their necks.

For officers it was a matter of vanity in many cases. Do I look better in a kepi or a hat?

For the EMs it was often a matter of what the unit was issued or were able to obtain as replacement clothing.

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP23 Oct 2009 1:59 p.m. PST

Good advice but, as for infantry, Western Fed cav would be more likely to wear hats than kepis for the reasons given above.

CPBelt23 Oct 2009 5:22 p.m. PST

I'm asking because Pete Pig now has their resculpted dismounted cav packs available.

What hat was standard issue for the Union?

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP23 Oct 2009 5:23 p.m. PST

Standard issue for troopers for field use was the forage cap, but especially in the West lots and lots of hats were used – for example, Wilder's brigade mostly wore a small grey hat

TKindred24 Oct 2009 5:53 a.m. PST

I'm asking because Pete Pig now has their resculpted dismounted cav packs available.

What hat was standard issue for the Union?

At the scale you are working on, it doesn't really matter whether you are using "federal" or "confederate" figures. Use the ones you like and paint them appropriately.

By regulation in the Federal army, each trooper (indeed, every soldier) was issued with both a dress hat and a forage cap. Likewise, he was issued with both a dress coat and a fatigue coat. The dress hat was the "Hardee" patterm, which, when issued, looked like an old Pilgrim hat from the 17th century, sans band and buckle. It was to be worh with the dress jacket for dress occasions.

He was also issued with a cap and "sack coat", which were to be worn on occasions of fatihue duty and when in the field. That this was the standard followed can be seen by large numbers of images of US Regular troops in the field, all wearing sack coats and forage caps.

Keeping this all in mind, who wore what decidely comes down to a unit/place/time affair. Some units never got the dress hat. Some units, like the "Iron Brigade" chose to wear the hat exclusively.

As a general rule, absent any documentation, you can paint the Federals in caps and coats, But like I say, it's a general thing, and not wholly accurate for any of the theatres, Eastern or Western.

As to Confederates, there were many CS regiments who used forage caps, some who used hats, and a lot with mixed head gear. You have to keep in mind that the CS uniform regulations were patterned upon those of the US Army, with colour and decorative/insignia changes. The general pattern of the equipment and clothing, however, mirrored that of the Federals. Short jackets, caps, almost identical accoutrements. Again, it's very much a unit/place/time call as to who wore what.

When painting cavalry, I have almost always used whatever figures I liked, without consideration of the nomenclature except for what they were armed with, and painted them appropriately for whatever unit I was building.

respects,

docdennis196824 Oct 2009 9:52 a.m. PST

As time passed the hat became more and more common( almost universal in the Western Armies by 64 and 65) and worn a lot in the East too (though not nearly as common)! This was true of all branchs Inf, Arty, Cav, Eng and so on! The hat was usually Black or Dark Brown or Dark Blue with some variations on grays. It came in many styles but the Slouch Hat was prime, and of course weather and hard use combined to give it a very "worn shape and feel"!

CPBelt24 Oct 2009 8:59 p.m. PST

Thanks. Very useful info! thumbs up

Sorry - only verified members can post on the forums.