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Simon Boulton22 Oct 2009 3:31 a.m. PST

Interesting to see that Renegade are planning to produce a range of 1815 British.
On one hand it seems a strange choice given the number of ranges available already plus the plastics from Perry and Victrix but Renegade do produce very nice figures and if they include them in their regimental deals, the cost will be very competitive, as low as 48p per figure on the current buy 5 get 1 free offer.
I would be happy to pay a little bit than the cost of the plastics for metal figures that you don't need to stick together. Will be very interested to see the French.

Gwartizan22 Oct 2009 4:01 a.m. PST

It's a time for large armies in 28mm.
There was a time when Old Glory were the leaders in cheap figures, but we seem to be getting more and more companies that can compete on price!

olicana22 Oct 2009 4:07 a.m. PST

I'm buying lead and more lead – I'm not sure how long it will be before plastics and health and safety legislation drive lead figure manufacturers to the wall, but I fear it will happen.

BravoX22 Oct 2009 5:50 a.m. PST

The choice of Waterloo Brits is very odd indeed given, for example, their Dark Age Saxons have no current opposition and even within the Napoleonic era Waterloo is such a limited campaign, particularly given that Renegade are not really compatible with anything else.

All that said I love their big chunky figures and I guess I will get some for a skirmish game (assuming French will appear) though currently I am quite taken by the idea of 54mm skirmish using Victrix plastics.


BTW the 4+1 deal no longer exists.

Simon Boulton22 Oct 2009 7:37 a.m. PST

I do love their chunky style too so Renegade Napoleonics does sound very tempting. Would have preferred peninsular Brits to Waterloo.

Would really like to see some French in greatcoats, assorted equipment and some in pokalems too, March attack pose.

BTW its a 5+1 deal now.

ArchiducCharles22 Oct 2009 7:43 a.m. PST

Another 1815 range???? How many do we bloody need?!

Why oh why!!!!

wildwolf4522 Oct 2009 8:00 a.m. PST

Even worse, more Brits and Frogs! What about some new Austrians or Prussians or Russians?! Especially the former.

For the nation that spent more time actively fighting France than any other, Austria sure seems to get the shaft on new minis…

ArchiducCharles22 Oct 2009 8:48 a.m. PST

You tell me…

Tym Corbett22 Oct 2009 8:50 a.m. PST

Now Prussians that would be interesting?

Regards22 Oct 2009 9:02 a.m. PST

A third plea for Austrians!

Erik

Simon Boulton22 Oct 2009 9:42 a.m. PST

Austrians do seem to get a raw deal.

Prussians? There is already the lovely Calpe range so don't think we really need another large figure Prussian range, although admittedly Calpe aren't as cheap as the Renegade figures are likely to be.

Empires at War Sponsoring Member of TMP22 Oct 2009 9:44 a.m. PST

The 48p per figure deals have never been available for their ACW range so i doubt it will be for Napoleonics. I would buy loads of both ranges if this deal was offered on them. Maybe they use higher quality metal for the ACW!!!

Rob UK22 Oct 2009 12:04 p.m. PST

I m ust admit to being a little disappointed that it is another 1815 range. There are plenty of other Nap periods that have a big gap waiting to be filled and nations that need covered. Calpe grasped the Prussian nettle and seem to be doing ok with it

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BravoX22 Oct 2009 2:19 p.m. PST

@Simon Boulton
"BTW its a 5+1 deal now"

Where did you see that?

I checked there site and couldnt see any sign of that, and I havent recived any email from them announcing a new deal for Regiments?

Simon Boulton23 Oct 2009 2:06 a.m. PST

BravoX, its on the advert in the latest copy of Wargames Illustrated, issue number 265

britishlinescarlet223 Oct 2009 3:03 a.m. PST

I'm a great fan of 1815 but even I am getting a bit miffed with the overkill…

Pete

BravoX23 Oct 2009 5:22 a.m. PST

Thats great news then as it effectively drops the price back to the old GBP11.95 per regiment.

Simon Boulton24 Oct 2009 4:04 a.m. PST

Hopefully there will be some photos of the figures soon

Midpoint24 Oct 2009 7:22 a.m. PST

Vote 4 for Austrians.

Also some Spanish please.

Simon Boulton24 Oct 2009 8:51 a.m. PST

There is a lot of overkill but as has been said before, figure companies will only make what they think will sell. Renegade must be confident that they can sell enough to make a profit.

Is there really such a demand for Austrians? There are already goods ranges from Front Rank, Old Glory and TAG/Alban.
The Spanish are also done by Front Rank and Eagle Figures make some nice infantry. You can even use some of the Perry Carlist figures too.

Supercilius Maximus24 Oct 2009 9:00 a.m. PST

It does seem a very odd choice with not just one, but two, plastic ranges recently released, and particularly given the lack of compatibility of Renegade with many other 28mm figure ranges (their ECW range is even bigger than the Bicorne range done by the same sculptor!).

I, too, like their figures, but I wonder why they didn't go for something a little more "niche" – and not covered elsewhere – eg early Napoleonic British to go with the Eureka French Revolutionary range?

Lord Hill06 Nov 2009 10:12 a.m. PST

Just for balance…1815? Hurrah!

welly181506 Nov 2009 3:29 p.m. PST

Looking forward to these, hope there are some pics soon

Lord Hill07 Nov 2009 3:50 a.m. PST

where does this news come from? I can't find anything on their website.

Simon Boulton07 Nov 2009 4:05 a.m. PST

The only info so far was a mention on their advert that 1815 Napoleonics would be their next new range and a line on the website that says coming soon, 1815 British.

Hopefully there will be some photo's soon

Simon Boulton13 Nov 2009 9:41 a.m. PST

There are a couple of pics on the Renegade website now.

Supercilius Maximus14 Nov 2009 4:49 a.m. PST

They look good, like most renegade figures, but nothing out of the ordinary (that said, I do like the "standing order arms" pose). Their deals – currently under 50p a figure – might win them sales, but IMO it will be how they develop/expand the range and/or how compatible they are with current products that will decide whether or not it is a success. It might have helped if they had done something a little unusual – say a Foot Guards light company range to go with the Hovels Hougomont model.

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On an accuracy point, the lace on the body of the coat looks too big – more like the Crimean period – though perhaps this is the painting technique used.

Lord Hill14 Nov 2009 5:36 a.m. PST

They look nice – especially the standing pose as Supercilius Maximus says.

Not sure about the kneeling pose though. If he was a flank company then I suppose he could be skirmishing but other than that my understanding (and please correct me) was that troops only knelt when in square and then that first kneeling rank kept their bayonet sloping upwards and did not fire.

This kneeling firing pose on anything other than skirmishers looks too WW2!(Eagle miniatures, btw, make a Royal Artilleryman kneeling with shell which is also at least 50 years premature!)

Duc de Limbourg14 Nov 2009 1:12 p.m. PST

Supercilius Maximus, just for information, Reiver castings started an early 1792 british range

And yes, why they start a 1815 range is beyond me. Prussian 1792, Russian 1799 (or Russian in Potemkin) I want to see.

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