"LASALLE is on Sale!" Topic

LASALLE now available for pre-order

Huzzah! Huzzah! We are now one month away from the release of LASALLE, the first game in the HONOUR series. If you haven't heard, Lasalle is the new petit-tactical Napoleonic game by Sam Mustafa, creator of "Grande Armée" and "Might and Reason." Players command a small force of a few thousand men, trying to complete a particular mission, or to hold a position against an enemy attack. The game comes with a complete Army Builder for tournament and pick-up play.

Lots of samples, previews, and other cool free stuff is available at the HONOUR website:

sammustafa.com

People who pre-order can save five dollars. Lasalle will be shipping in mid-November.

Ordered!

Same here. A round $50 USD for Canada including shipping. The current exchange rate means you only add on another couple of bucks too.

I've eagerly been looking forward to this, but at $25 USD to post to NZ, I'll eagerly wait a bit longer for someone else to stock it.

Excellent news Sam. I have just ordered a copy.

Mine is the order from Singapore. While it didn't stop me, $US25 for international mail does seem a trifle steep. I hope you are able to review those costs when you start shipping live.

Looking forward to getting them.

For you antipodeans – not to worry: there will be retailers in NZ and AUS stocking it next month.

The US shipping rates for overseas have gone up dramatically in the past year. I was shocked when I looked into it.

Arrggh- I just noticed that we're erroneously charging sales taxes to a couple of guys we shouldn't be… Looks like I'll have to do a few refunds via PayPal.

A brand-new webstore. A few bugs left to fix, but all will be well. (If you live in NJ, you have to pay the sales tax. Otherwise, not.)

OOoo, pretty. I have exactly zero Napoleonic figures painted. And if I want anyone to play with me, I will have to purchase and paint both forces… But, there are all those lovely plastic 28mm figures coming out, and it is a handsome game, looking at the sample pages.

Hmmmmm.

'For you antipodeans – not to worry: there will be retailers in NZ and AUS stocking it next month.'

Anyone in particular I could preorder from, Sam?

I have 'most' of a French division done and based, but need to get onto building an opponent. One of the first things I'll be looking up in the rules/list is what size a reasonable minimum force is.

Any plans for a SYW version?

crazy question, what is the figure scale or do the rules use the might and reason 2 bases represent a brigade basing?

"Arrggh- I just noticed that we're erroneously charging sales taxes to a couple of guys we shouldn't be… Looks like I'll have to do a few refunds via PayPal."

One would think that if you lived in Trinidad/Tobago you would be exempt from Uncle Sam's strategic bank and auto company bailout fund.

"The US shipping rates for overseas have gone up dramatically in the past year. I was shocked when I looked into it."

Now those would definitely be a problem.

Payment on the way!

bluewillow,

LaSalle is the tactical end of things so it takes several bases to make up a battalion. But as I understand it, like Might and reason, the base is more important than the figure. So the figure scale will depend on how many models you can or want to pack onto a base.

With my units of about 28 figs per battalion you end up with a figure scale of about 25;1, but that really doesn't affect the rules.

Willow , 4 or 6 bases for a batalion it is batalion level sort of thing ..talk about it on sunday I presume Nic will have them..

I am talking to Sam about acting as UK distributor

I hope to have a preorder page up soon once I finalise the price.

Mike

I've ordered 2 copies!
One for me and one for a friend,…
Cheers

Looks like I'll have to go for it. Hopefully there will be copies for sale at Crisis.

Looking forward to these greatly Sam. Was about to pre-order then encountered shipping charges – $25 USD for one copy.

Then I thought to to buy several to defray those costs – 3 for $62 USD shipping!

Which will win – my impatience or my economic-rationality?

All I can say about the international shipping from the USA in recent years is… Sigh.

I'm actually losing a little bit of money on some of these, after the postage costs, the fees for the fulfillment service (warehousing and packaging and shipping), and the PayPal "tax" are factored in.

I assumed that 90% of people would ultimately get it from their local dealer, but for people who've been following the project for a long time, and who like to order direct from the author/publisher, I'd offer the option to buy one directly from the website. Besides, after all the time and money I put into it… It feels really nice to sell it, at last!

Natholeon: yes, Nic Robson at Eureka will be carrying them in Aus, and Craig Martin will be carrying them in NZ.

Mike,

Can we reduce the costs by sharing shipping? Do you get discount for multiple copies?

Otherwise ill just wait for UK distro.

jon

Now up for people in the UK and Europe to preorder:

link

thanks

Mike

IT'S HERE! IT'S HERE!

I just got into the office and there was a big slab-like box waiting for me. It's my 10 personal copies, airmailed from the printer.

I can't express how delighted I am with the book; they've done a truly fabulous job. It's absolutely gorgeous.

Now I can get some sleep! (whew…)

Black Hat Mike, will you be at Crisis in Antwerp (7 Nov.), or will someone else there have them through you?

I won't be at Crisis and don't believe that the books will be in the country by then – best estimate is that they won't leave the USA until November 15th so they won't be here until the end of November.

Mike

So what will be the first scenario? Seems like the rules can handle something like Rolica.

The book contains three scenarios. One of them is available as a free download at the website:

sammustafa.com

Seems to me I could simply take my Shako2 based army and play this game (some of the sk might need adjusting). Would this be fair to say?

Also how many Bns of infantry in a typical game?

TW.

Basing is certainly compatible with Shako. You can find all the basing information in the "Downloads" section of the website, including skirmishers.

You can also find a sample army list (the Prussians) on the website, which should give you an idea of typical army sizes. (Although of course, if you play historical scenarios of your own design, then the army sizes are up to you.)

sammustafa.com

I'm so looking forward to this game! Can't decide, though, if I should pre-order from Sam or wait for Black Hat Games to stock it (I'm in Europe). The former is more expensive, but I don't know if I can wait the extra weeks!

We were doing moves in the Campaign game for the 7 yrs war (Using Sams rules) and I wondered aloud while the Dutch player was looking for one of his navies….
'Wonder how much of a streatch it would be to make La Salle a batt level 7 yrs war game?' Then every one groane and glared at me.

Well of course the whole concept of the HONOUR series is that eventually it will cover most, if not all, of the horse-and-musket era at multiple scales. So LASALLE, for instance, is the petit-tactical Napoleonic game. Next is BLÜCHER, the grand-tactical Napoleonic game. After that we're unsure, but the candidates are STONEWALL, LAFAYETTE, or perhaps a yet-unnamed Marlburian or Late-Ren title.

The idea is that all these games share the same basic terminology and core values, and of course the same basing, so that transitioning between them is simple and fast. But it's not a generic One-Size-Fits-All thing: each game is a complete stand-alone treatment of that topic, with its own flavor and quirks.

So my point is… if you're patient, that battalion-level 7YW game will probably be along eventually.

Will anyone at Fall In have the rules for sale?

The shipper tells me that the books should be arriving in the port right about now, in fact. The issue is: How long will they need to clear Customs and then ship to the warehouse? It's going to be close, but the safe money is still on "No," (alas), they won't be in stock for Fall-In.

Who knows, I might get lucky. But even if they're not yet available for sale there, I've now got a small stash of personal copies that I was planning on displaying, and certainly having one on display at the Lasalle game there.

The naming concept is certainly interesting, and I must admit I'd never come across the term 'petit-tactical' before. I'd be interested to know why Lasalle was chosen to represent 'petit-tactical'. As a light cavalry general his isn't the first name that springs to mind. I'm not sure I dare postulate an alternative suggestion though as that tends to open up cans of worms around here; before you knew it somebody would be suggesting Berthier's Rabbits as a name. Blucher's an interesting one as well, although I can see the two-syllable approach working well. Didn't fancy 'Davout' then?

[I must admit I'd never come across the term 'petit-tactical' before.]

I'm pretty sure I coined the expression, but I've started to see others using it now, so nobody will believe me!

[I'd be interested to know why Lasalle was chosen to represent 'petit-tactical'.]

If you must know…

1. It had to be a divisional commander of some sort.

2. The name had to be short and catchy and look good on a book cover.

3. There had to be some good-looking famous, colorful images of that person available in the public domain. (i.e., the cover again.)

4. It had to be something that Americans could pronounce and spell, and remember. (I'd gotten tired of all the various permutations of "Grande Armée." Not to mention it's just good business sense to have a title that's easy to remember for a Google search.)

The original working title was CRAUFURD, since that expressed better what the game was about. But I knew that nobody would ever be able to spell it correctly. My own playtesters couldn't even spell it right. So I knew I'd have to get something else.

Other than the above, my only criteria were: No Eagles, Glory, Empereurs, or Pigeon French.

Thanks for the considered and extremely well reasoned response! I'm sure in time to come you may be able to look back on creating a small piece of wargaming jargon if petit-tactical catches on, which it may well. We shall all have to remember to stick up for you when others claim it as their own, as inevitably happens with such things!

Too "petit" for my taste.

I checked out the web site and can't wait. I was wondering what the suggested basing is for officers/commanders/sub commnaders etc.

officers are considered "markers" – not unit bases. So use whatever is smallest but attractive for the figures.

Other than the above, my only criteria were: No Eagles, Glory, Empereurs, or Pigeon French.

Pfft. Just wait till my own rules, Glory Eagles de l'Empereur come out.

"Other than the above, my only criteria were: No Eagles, Glory, Empereurs, or Pigeon French"

! And there I was thinking:
"La Empereur's Glorious Pigeons March To Victory with Eagles" sounded like a catchy title,…
"sigh"

Other than the above, my only criteria were: No Eagles, Glory, Empereurs, or Pigeon French.

For that reason alone, I shall have to purchase a copy. You get extra points for leaving out the word "and"

Eagles and Glory
Eagles and Empereurs
Eagles and Pigeons
Glory and Pigeons
Glory and Empereurs
Glory and Eagles
Glory and Glory

I prefer this for a title: "Good Beans, Milo!"

(A quote from the movie "Waterloo" with Christopher Plummer)

I am looking forward to these rules….I ahave been looking for a set that I could do with 15mm AB to try to drag the guys at my club away from WRG in 25mm now and again.

I am more interested in Blucher as that is a great level for campaign games at the club.

If i preorder it Sam will I get it before I could get it form Nic Robson here down under?

Petite-tactical- the term was used by Scott Bowden in his forward to Chef de Battalion in 1995.

[If i preorder it Sam will I get it before I could get it form Nic Robson here down under?]

Errrrrmmm… probably. It depends upon your level of (im)patience!

Fair enough…i will wait until Nic gets them….keep us informed about how Blucher progresses next year Sam!

More rules. Lovely. :)

Need to make more room on the shelf…