| redbert | 09 Oct 2009 9:10 a.m. PST |
Hello all, just signed up, can some kind soul perhaps give me some guidance or advise !!!!, i have discovered my G/G/G/G/Dad a WILLIAM KING (Trumpet/Major) & his son also named WILLIAM (Trumpeter) were both at the Battle of Waterloo, as i have their ATTESTATION papers that verifies they were at the battle. However searching for records of this Reg/t as i have found are very sparce even on the INTERNET, this is mainly i think to the fact that this Reg/t was disbanded after WATERLOO, as it is my understanding WELLINGTON was not overly impressed by their discipline, due to the Reg/ts part in the battle of Talavera, which was a bit of a blunder to put it mildly !!!!
There is very little data at KEW in England that helps me. i know this is puely a shot in the dark, but would some one on TMP have any clues or knowledge of this Reg/t, i have no idea if WILLIAM Snr was at Talavera, but as he was the Trumpet/Major one would think so !!!!!, alas i can find no record of him being there !!!!!!, perhaps i am being to optomistic to think some one on the board might be able to help me !!!!, hope you all make sense of my prattling, would be most grateful for any comments on this subject Thanks Redbert |
| forrester | 09 Oct 2009 10:02 a.m. PST |
Did they both live long enough to be awarded the very belated Military General Service Medal? With a bar for Talavera? |
| redbert | 09 Oct 2009 10:51 a.m. PST |
Hi forrester thanks for your interest i have The Military General Service which Displays the Following King Wiiliam Sjt 1-Talavera. Trumpet Major on Waterloo Roll.Harris collection.1984.
( any idea what the Harris Collection is !!!!) Therefore in essence i have answered partly my own question that WILLIAM Snr was indeed at the battle of Talavera !!!!
Ops, sorry, should have studied it properly, However there appears to be no mentioned of WILLIAM Jnr !!!!
(Why any clues) as he was certainly at WATERLOO Rdbert |
| jonspaintingservice | 09 Oct 2009 12:17 p.m. PST |
WILLIAM Jnr !!!! Waterloo could have been his first battle. Any idea of his age at the time of waterloo. Being the son and a trumpeter i get the feeling he might have been very young, being taught the job of trumpeter and Snr brought Jnr to Waterloo as his first great adventure. I think finding out his age is going to be very important. He could have spent some time in England as a recruit in training and passed out just in time to fight at waterloo. There is a book that might be of interest.. Recollections of My Life including
Military Service at Waterloo
By Colonel Blathwayt 23rd Light Dragoons1814-17
link |
| redbert | 09 Oct 2009 12:52 p.m. PST |
Hi Jons with reference to his attaestation papers William Jnr was about 15-/+ 2 years, Yes i have a copy of the Book alas no mention of the 2 Williams !!!!!mores the pity !!!
It also states he was UNDER AGE when he joined the 23rd L/D. thanks for your interest, any more ideas, i do beleive the 23rd were in Canada & the West Indies !!!!! any thoughts by any one Thanks Redbert |
| Footslogger | 10 Oct 2009 2:53 a.m. PST |
Redbert, this stuff is really interesting, thank you for bringing it up. Being so low down the army's order of seniority, I think the 23rd LD would have been ripe for the chop when peacetime came whatever Wellington thought of them. It's no coincidence that Allan Mallinson (in the Matthew Hervey Books) called his fictional regiment the 6th Light Dragoons – much higher up the list and safe from disbandment. |
| welly1815 | 10 Oct 2009 8:06 a.m. PST |
A book by Ernest A Gray called The Trumpet of Glory might be of interest to you. It is about John Shipp the first Veterinary Officer in the Army and joined the 23rd LD and was at Talavera with them through to Waterloo. It covers his life as well as the movements of the 23rd . |
| redbert | 17 Oct 2009 3:46 p.m. PST |
Hi Welly sorry not to reply sooner, i have ordered the book you mention at my local library, is there any one who can explain the difference of the Shako Badge & the Tarleton Badge.?????? in the 1800s
Would i be correct in thinking the SHAKO was an Infantry Badge !!!, & the Tarleton Badge Cavalry !!!!! any ideas
Cheers redbert |
| welly1815 | 19 Oct 2009 3:17 a.m. PST |
In 1812 the British light Dragoon Cav went from Tarleton helmets into a bell topped shako , so a shako badge is not just a Infantry thing |
| redbert | 19 Oct 2009 11:08 a.m. PST |
Hi welly sorry to appear to be a bit thick,!!!!!
would the shako be of the same design for all the CAVALRY, or would each reg/t be different !!!!!i would think trying to find one would be like rocking horse brains !!!!, if you know what i mean !!!!, any ideas WELLY, thanks redbert |
| welly1815 | 19 Oct 2009 3:15 p.m. PST |
Hi Redbert the design was the same for all the British Light Dragoons after 1812. The only major differences were the colour of the cords etc. Try looking at the Front Rank web site they have good pics of both pre and post 1812 figures , hope this is of some help |
| redbert | 22 Oct 2009 1:07 p.m. PST |
Many Thanks Welly will try the web Redbert |
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