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Joe Dever08 Oct 2009 2:17 p.m. PST

The International Napoleonic Weekend (3-4 October 2009) was held at Kingston Maurward, near Dorchester (UK). The event was a 200th Anniversary weekend celebration of the year of 1809 and all things Napoleonic.

The Napoleonic Association staged a skirmish and a battle, and the French and English bivouacs were open to visit throughout the weekend.

Also on the agenda was a formal Regency Dinner in full period costume with a string quartet on the Saturday evening, and Regency-period picnics in the formal gardens both afternoons. The venue was a stunning Georgian mansion built in 1720 for George Pitt after he married into the last of the Grey family.

Together with a few of my regular wargaming chums, we set up a static display of the Battle of Waterloo in 28mm. The table measured 30ft x 9ft (10m x 3m) and the display comprised scenery and approximately 7,500 painted miniatures from our personal collections.

For those of you who were unable to attend this memorable event, I've posted my pics of the weekend in two parts.

Part One contains pics of our Battle of Waterloo display table, and can be accessed via this link:

link


Part Two contains some additional pics of the 28mm battle display, featuring a Napoleon-lookalike in costume taking command of the French! There are also pics of the traders, the Regency Dinner, the troop bivouacs, and the final re-enactment battle:

link

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Credits:

Terrain, scenery & figures: Robert Browning
Figures: Ron Ringrose, Joe Dever, Martin Monks, Beric Collins.
Photography: Joe Dever

Personal logo Flashman14 Supporting Member of TMP08 Oct 2009 2:24 p.m. PST

Gorgeous! some really nice painting in there ..!

I didn't see it ..too busy looking at the pics.. but is it a model of Waterloo throughout the day or is it a refight ..looks like unsupported cavalry against the squares again ..

timurilank08 Oct 2009 3:05 p.m. PST

Great photos. I loved number 153; Napoleon with that St. Helelna look!

Cheers,
Robert
18thcenturysojourn.blogspot.com

HistoryInc08 Oct 2009 4:22 p.m. PST

Nice layout of Waterloo.

Just such a pity I got conned and ripped off when I made it for Robert Browning.

Paul Darnell

HDI Headquarters08 Oct 2009 4:46 p.m. PST

Thanks so much Joe!
Clif

M C MonkeyDew08 Oct 2009 5:29 p.m. PST

Fantastic photos. Thank you for sharing them.

vtsaogames08 Oct 2009 6:33 p.m. PST

What is that French unit in red coats and bicorns?

uruk hai08 Oct 2009 10:45 p.m. PST

Brilliant. Superb and many other superlatives.

guy Barlow 209 Oct 2009 8:20 a.m. PST

I thought for one minute that George Bush junior was there in photo 254.

Hans Landa09 Oct 2009 8:49 a.m. PST

I love that style of terrian board do you or anyone else know whats the method of making those?

HistoryInc09 Oct 2009 9:32 a.m. PST

Hi,

Its a painful memory making the actual terrain boards seen here, but happy to help if I can.

White Poly was the basic material used, which was glued to a hardboard base and then encased in wood edging to protect each board from damage. The poly was then sculpted and cut etc to match the terrain of waterloo.

Once all that messy bit was out of the way, I used railway ballast and some sand to give it some texture, which also makes for easier painting. (larger rocks and gravel etc was used in places to add some features.

The ploughed fields where simply done by cutting into the poly a little and then plastered over with some wall filler.

The whole 30ft of terrain was then painted with a base colour of dark chocolate, which took several days and which then represents the earth under the grass. The grass was a dark green colour highlighted with a bright yellow.

Hope that helps

Paul Darnell

Hans Landa09 Oct 2009 1:03 p.m. PST

Hi Paul

thanks for the info much appreciated. Like i said before this style of terrian board i really like and its is the style im aiming for when i get round to making my own for my own games room sometime in the future as the wife as given me the ok for to convert our loft into a games room.

Cheers
Jon

HistoryInc09 Oct 2009 2:43 p.m. PST

Hi Jon,

Just drop me an email when your ready for making your terrain and would be glad to help with a bit more info on the making of the terrain.

Spending a day here working on a website, hence being on-line all day.

touchinghistory@aol.com

All the best

Paul

Lord Ashram10 Oct 2009 2:58 p.m. PST

Absolutely retarded… just ridiculous. Thank you for sharing!!

DeanMoto10 Oct 2009 5:18 p.m. PST

Fantastic! BTW, what unit is in picture #009 of the first link? Thanks for posting those wonderful pics of that awesome-looking display. Dean

Joe Dever11 Oct 2009 2:34 a.m. PST

To Paul Darnell:

Robert Browning refutes your false and unsubstantiated claim that you were ‘conned and ripped off' when he commissioned you to construct the Waterloo terrain boards.

You were paid the agreed sum. He is still waiting for several buildings that he paid you for but never received.

And he is not alone in this regard. Perhaps you would kindly address the concerns of several wargamers who have paid you for items they've never received? They have been waiting for over 6 months for your explanation on the following TMP thread:

TMP link

HistoryInc11 Oct 2009 8:49 a.m. PST

Hi Joe,

Last post on the subject here,as it was just seeing the layout which brought back a few sad memories.

I made the terrain for who I thought to be a friend who was in trouble with money and so I made it a a dirt cheap cost. Robert and Ron Ringrose told me again and again that he, (Robert) was totally broke and his business as a builder was in danger of going bust, but he wanted a layout for his new games room.

So wanting to help him out as he wanted to have his first wargame, I did the huge amount of work dirt cheap, loosing out on several thousand pounds, as it a massive layout.

I thought Robert and Ron Ringrose were friends, but it turned out they were just after what they could get out of me, in terms of free models, name checks in articles and magazines, something they both hassled me for again and again whenever I saw them.

In a time of difficulties for me with my health, the last thing I needed was people planning together to get huge layouts and models on the cheap.

Needless to say Robert is not owed any buildings and was not broke, as it was just a scam all along. I also feel certain he still lives in his very big Essex house.

So you are right he payed the price I asked, but I asked the price based on the fact that he and Ringrose had both told me again and again, that he did not have any money.

In life you try when you can to help out friends and hope that they are honest when they ask for your help.

As for the link you posted, its somewhat out of date and all those who posted on it have been refunded a while back.

Cheers Paul

HistoryInc11 Oct 2009 9:54 a.m. PST

Sorry meant to add this for anyone who wants to get in touch.

Tel 01904 651396
mobile – 07762471333

and see the thread regarding Touching History posted a few weeks back on the consumer matters and British Wargaming.

Trying to move on with life and health so should not really have posted the last few comments, but you live and learn.

Cheers Paul

Joe Dever12 Oct 2009 5:35 a.m. PST

To: DeanMoto

The Regulations for Cuirassier specified a blue coat. However, it's believed that the 13eme Cuirassier wore uniforms of locally produced brown cloth. The 13eme were raised in 1808 in Spain from a myriad regimental detachments including the 1eme and 2eme Carabiniers, 1eme, 2eme, and 3eme Cuirassiers, and remnants of other units were added later.

Their facings were wine red which fits in with this photo. They fought mainly in eastern Spain. To be honest, there is no record of them ever fighting British troops.They were disbanded in 1814 and so were not at Waterloo. They were included in the display to make up the numbers as we were a touch light on a full compliment of cuirassiers. They come from the collection of Martyn Monks.

ansbachdragoner12 Oct 2009 4:51 p.m. PST

Great pictures Joe – looks like a great game and an awesome day. Thanks for sharing.

Rob UK12 Oct 2009 11:41 p.m. PST

Great looking set up!! That would have been a great day out if I was still living in Dorchester!

hussarbob1746.webs.com

KniazSuvorov13 Oct 2009 3:11 p.m. PST

Thanks for sharing!

Those are great pics of a gorgeous layout. Love all those little vignette pieces.

Azantihighlightning15 Oct 2009 8:37 a.m. PST

Wow. Nice.

bigdennis19 Oct 2009 10:11 p.m. PST

Outstanding. A true masterpiece. Thanks so much for sharing. It is truly inspriring

Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Sponsoring Member of TMP20 Oct 2009 9:07 p.m. PST

Great pictures. I love the ones with Napoleon and the two redcoats getting a close up view of the Waterloo wargame.

ColonelToffeeApple22 Oct 2009 4:25 p.m. PST

Hi Joe,
Firstly I have loved every one of your photo sets this year, inspirational stuff. My question is similar to the one I posted on the Wagram thread. 7,500 is a huge number of troops, and I – for the life of me, can't work out where those numbers arise in these photos. On the first phoo showing a panaroma I cam make out, and I think that's at most about 30 infantry battalions down the entire length of the table based on two battalions in each square. When I look at the segments that project there seem to be about 5 0r 6 in each and lets say about 10 in and around Hougoumont etc.
The long and the short of it is that no matter what angle I look at this from it's big push to reach 100 battalions on this table, and assuming that the French are 36 strong and the British 30 as they appear to be, that's less than 3,600. Where do the other 4,000 come from? I'm not trying to be ungrateful for a superb display, but the troop density to table size question is an important one, and I'm trying to figure out the numbers. I appreciate there are cavalry, gun crew, skirmishers etc etc, but I can reach anything like 7,500 or anywhere near it.

Joe Dever23 Oct 2009 12:19 p.m. PST

To Colonel T.A.: You are correct; there are more like 3,600 figures on the table, not 7,500 as previously stated. By the way, thanks for your kind comments about my photo sets. It's good to know they are being appreciated by wargamers like you. I'll be posting some more large scale games, European wargame shows, and museum walkthroughs between Thanksgiving and Christmas 2009.

ColonelToffeeApple24 Oct 2009 4:28 a.m. PST

Hi,
I'll be looking forward to the next batches. Your photos help in so many ways as I also use them to identify manufacturers etc – Bicorne don't have pictures of the Connoissuer range for example (no criticism intended Andrew). I am assuming that the more upright French Line Lancer is from that range as it isn't Elite?
People extend thanks all the time, but I have found TMP to be superb since I discovered it – belatedly – and the links to uniforms, brilliant blogs and great photos have really kept my enthusiasm alive. In fact I've just renewed my supporting ,membership which I just noticesd lapsed a couple of weeks ago.
I still miss some of the great clubs we had in the army.

bgbboogie03 Nov 2009 10:10 a.m. PST

Very Very Nice i'm dead jealous….

Valator03 Nov 2009 10:25 a.m. PST

It took forever for those pics to load, and it was worth every second. Simply breathtaking!

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