"UFO/Aliens: Kelly-Hopkinsville, Kentucky 1955" Topic

It's real in the mind of Kelly residents, I'm sure, just not in material-form for outsiders to see and appreciate.

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Wow. Took a while, didn't it! :)

Dan

It would appear that I must return and seek answers in Hopkinsville at the local museum.

This I vow to do.

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The Truth is Out There!

Pyrate,

You are the best. I love it. Nice video. Interesting folk.

One of these days I have to get my hands on a clear picture of the Sutton home, so I can raid the farm.

For now, drawings like these will have to suffice to satisfy my need to visualize:

Dan
PS. I wonder if it was a cabin like this one:
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OK Dan, snow predictions for Chicagoland this weekend means I am going back to Kelly on Saturday. I am not certain this makes up for missing a weekend with my wife,(in fact I am sure it doesn't) but I will try more research including a museum visit on Saturday.

I'll report back soon.

Cheers,

Mick

This post is dedicated to CC.

I returned to Kelly-Hopkinsville, KY today. Thanks to the curator and staff of the Pennyroyal Museum in Hopkinsville, which is a great museum on local history, (remind me to tell you about the masked night riders and the 1907 dark tobacco war), I was able to pinpoint the sight of the Sutton residence at the time of the Kelly UFO incident. For anyone interested, you can find the Google Earth image of it at:

N 36 deg 58 min 39.34 sec
W 087 deg 28 min 43.15 sec

Note that GPS devices often convert arc minutes and seconds into tenths of a minute or second, depending on the device, and that the coordinates given here are in arc degrees, minutes and seconds with only remainders of arc seconds defined in tenths. For those who understand navigation or know how to use google earth, this will not be a problem.

If you have found the right point you will find a bare area of ground that looks like it once had a home on it. It did. That is where the long gone Sutton farm house used to stand.

If you look carefully, you will see a small rectangular shape a very short distance from the northeast corner of the patch of ground. That is the location of the well that Billy Ray Taylor was drawing water from when he first saw the craft. It isn't very big and there is a small windmill over the well now.

A brick house is visible farther north east (upper right corner). It is occupied, according to Geraldine Sutton Stith, daughter of Lucky Sutton, by distant relatives of hers. According to her account, corroborated by the Pennyroyal Museum curator, the property is well marked and posted no-trespassing and they are a bit, to quote someone who knows "gun shy" if people come near. I was advised to photograph the residence without stopping, which I did today.

Curiously there was a cat that ran back and forth near the area while I was there. I wonder if the cat is descended from the one whose tail was stepped on by a sheriff's deputy, causing quite a stir when the farm was searched that night back in 1955.

Visiting the site was a combination of curious and creepy. The local population of Kelly obviously down-plays this historic location, but at the same time I had that same feeling I get when I visit a battlefield.

The only weird experience, if you want to call it that, is that I was talking to my wife on cell just south of Kelly, when I lost connection and heard interference that reminded me of the alien electronic communication heard on the baby monitor in the movie SIGNS. I opened the sun-roof, but saw nothing.

There are more cardinals around Kelly, KY then I have ever seen in one place before. At one point I saw six or seven males and I don't know how many females in one formation.

CC if you or anyone else wants pictures, let me know ho best to get them to you.

Mick

"When I first heard about it I thought . . . "here's a gaming idea".

Terrain would be relatively easy, I think.

* Log house
* Trees and shrubs (lots and lots)
* Shed
* Truck
* Outhouse
* Log pile
* Chicken coop

Am I missing anything? CC"

Pig pen, err Hawg Waller, that is.
Manure pile with pitchfork
Perhaps a stump for the "trained sheep"?

If it were West By-God Virginia, you'd need a couple of refrigerators or washing machines, and/or an old sofa on the front porch and several vehicles in stages of (dis)repair and dismantlement in the front yard. And I'm not stereotyping anything--I've seen it while driving off some of the main roads.

Mick,

That is quite an investigation. I really think someone needs to make a game and terrain just for it.

And I think I would have been truly creeped out by those baby monitor sounds!!!

I would love to see some pics posted for all here to see.

Thanks so, so much. This is fantastic information.

Dan
PS. Capncarp, nice touches there!

Thanks CC and CapnCarp.

I'll see if I can't set up a blogspot to post the pics. They're nothing special to look at, other than their historical significance.

Although it doesn't do justice in Google Earth, the terrain does fall off quite a bit behind the property. Finding a place to land would have left just a few options.

Assuming the terrain hasn't changed all that much, I am guessing the craft was parked just southeast of the house on the other side of the tree line.

A short walk (or glide) for a drunk teenage alien.

I created a blog for these pics of Kelly, Hopkinsville, and related ephemera. Enjoy.

mickswilderside.blogspot.com

>>A short walk (or glide) for a drunk teenage alien.<<

Or a pair of Great Horned Owls defending their nest. :-)

The owl theory has great validity. One witness in Hopkinsville indicated that contrary to popular report, alcohol was a factor. Go figure.

>>The owl theory has great validity<<

Everything about the alien description sounds like large owls. Pointed ears. Talons. Able to fly and climb around the outside of the house. Etc. Great Horned Owls grow to two feet from head to tail.

Some might think that people living in a rural area would know what an owl looks like, but i've lived in a woodsy section of western New Jersey for thirty years and I and my wife have seen bears, coyotes, fox and several different kinds of hawks, but we've never seen an owl! We hear them at night in the winter, but never when it's light enough to also see them. So it's possible that these people might have riled up a mated pair and mistook them for supernatural creatures.

Really. My home is in the northern suburbs of Chicago and we have owls all over the place. Of course we also have hawks,coyote, deer, fox, opossum, racoons, rabbit, squirrel, ground hog, skunk, chipmunks, mice, vole, shrew, toads, and a vibrant array of birds. But then, I am talking about the garden state of the Midwest, Illinois.

Most people in Illinois, know what they're looking at. Although I did know of a Chicago cop who thought an opossum was a big rat, but he grew up in the inner city.

>>Really. My home is in the northern suburbs of Chicago and we have owls all over the place.<<

We hear them, we just never see them. The most common raptors that we do see are Red Tailed Hawks. We had a hawk land on our deck railing and hang out for a while. He was really cool to watch.

>>Most people in Illinois, know what they're looking at. Although I did know of a Chicago cop who thought an opossum was a big rat, but he grew up in the inner city.<<

That doesn't surprise me at all. I grew up in Manhattan and I posted a picture of myself as a teenager leaning on what I thought was a tree. It was funny as hell when one of the members pointed out that it was a telephone pole. LOL!!

Hmm, I wonder what would happen these days if you sprinkled a lot of glow in the dark dust on a bunch of large owls … And then released them in rural Kentucky on a Friday or Saturday night.

Almost makes me want to give it a try.

Dan
PS. By the way, Pyrate, I love those pics:
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Why wait for a Friday or Saturday night. Dry counties tend to be well supplied all the time. Western Kentucky dry county residents head for Paducah where they empty the shelves on a regular basis. What they don't buy, they make.

>>Hmm, I wonder what would happen these days if you sprinkled a lot of glow in the dark dust on a bunch of large owls … And then released them in rural Kentucky on a Friday or Saturday night.<<

That would be a hoot! LOL

LOL. I can't believe I didn't see that one coming!!!

Too funny.

Dan

Dan

It's like the whole thread was a setup for that line. :-)

The other predominant debunking theory, and no less bizarre than owls or aliens, is an apparent record that a circus wagon got lost in Hopkinsville and ended up northbound on US 41. The wagon broke down and the operators of the vehicle could not completely account for all of the simians it was carrying.

As one debunker wrote in his theory, man-kind's cousins had fun around the farmhouse but were scared away back to the wagon by gunshots.

I don't know which is worse. Those that believe without skepticism or those skeptics who are incapable of believing.

Whether you don't give a hoot or think this all monkey business, it still needs to be developed into a good game.

One theory I read was that Billy Ray may have been a multiple-abductee and THEY came for him again.

At any rate, 1955 was certainly a year for strange humanoid sightings.

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>>I don't know which is worse. Those that believe without skepticism or those skeptics who are incapable of believing.<<

I guess I'd go into the skeptic category. Just about every weird phenomena can be explained. Magicians create illusions that are seemingly inexplicable, but you know that they are only tricks.

I lecture kids on class trips at a mill that was built around 1800. It is supposedly haunted and everyone has seen or heard something supernatural there…except me, and i've worked there for almost ten years! In fact, one of those TV shows that goes to "haunted" places to look for "ghosts" filmed an episode there. Everyone is primed to see "spirits" of some kind so every little sound or trick of the light is presented as proof that the mill is haunted.

Anyway, one day while I was lecturing on the workings of the mill to a grade school class the millstone began to turn! It was no longer connected to the water wheel outside, so this, theoretically, was impossible.

Long story short, I went ahead with the lecture and then told two of my female colleagues what had happened. One of them who had been working there even longer than I said "that millstone isn't connected. It *can't* turn. You must be mistaken". I replied "Nope. It turned, and very fast at that". This was shocking to the both of them and I could tell that they were thinking "ghosts", but I wasn't buying it. I hunted up the curator and told him what happened and he said "the wheel is powered. We just haven't used it for many years. Somebody just accidentally flipped the switch". So there ya go. If I hadn't questioned the situation it would have been another legend proving that there are "ghosts" in the "haunted mill". :-)

As for alien visitors, everyone knows that the nearest systems that might sustain life are millions of light years away, leaving me thinking that some little green men popping in for a trip to the farm is very highly unlikely, if not impossible.

How nice.

>>How nice.<<

What's "nice"?

Caution: Adult Language

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Well Cap. Same to you…and the rocket from Venus you rode in on. :-)

Wow.

I thought we were just talking about hillbillies and fluorescent little aliens/owls here!

Dan

We are.

CC:

It is obvious from the pictorial evidence that you presented that the chupacabra is infact a H-ville goblin/sasquatch hybrid….proof positive!
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>>We are.<<

mmm hmmm…except for an unnecessary side trip that you took us into vulgar and abusive land. I still haven't figured out what brought that on, but so be it. I can give as good as I get.

One should never ask a question to which one is not prepared to receive an unexpected answer, even if it is in jest.

>>One should never ask a question to which one is not prepared to receive an unexpected answer, even if it is in jest.<<

It wasn't particularly unexpected. I detected a note of sarcasm in your "how nice" and wanted to know what you meant by that. You told me. No problem. I replied to your explanation. Still no problem. You meant it to be humorous? Ok. Then let's let it go at that.

Oh, good. We're all friends again. No offense intended to anyone.

Ok. I just painted a Pegasus Area 51 saucer, and 4 packs of the new Chronoscope aliens just arrived in the mail this afternoon. They are not Goblins, however. Do I lose points for no authenticity?

Since I am a 28mm guy, (poor eyesight), what other hillbilly options do I have beside Blue Moon. OK, I could use old family photos and convert, but I would prefer out of the box. Meantime, while waiting for replies, I'll go check the still.