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anleiher03 Oct 2009 6:04 p.m. PST

Can anyone suggest a website explaining German AFV tactical markings?

I have to paint some Germans for the club and I haven't a clue how to do the decals.

Thanks

Top Gun Ace03 Oct 2009 7:41 p.m. PST

For most, the first number is the company, second is the platoon, and third is the vehicle within the platoon.

Usually listed as 123, 1st Co., 2nd platoon, 3rd tank.

In some units, later in the war, they numbered the individual vehicles 5,6,7,8,9, to attempt to throw off enemy intelligence. 5 = 1, 6 = 2, 7 = 3rd tank in the platoon, etc.

Various numbers for company HQ units, e.g. 201, 202, or 204, 205 – 201 and 204 would be one of the vehicles in the two-vehicle company HQ, as would 202, and 205. Sometimes in order, sometimes in reverse order, e.g. 204, or 205 could be the company commander's vehicle, and the other his adjutant.

Occasionally, you will see a I01, or II02 – those correspond to Battalion HQ vehicles – I = 1st Battalion, II = 2nd Battalion, and then the vehicle within the unit.

Sometimes letters precede the numbers as well.

S preceding a number usually signifies a Schwere (Heavy) unit, e.g. a Tiger tank battalion.

Colors for the numbers could vary considerably, by unit, theater, and time period, e.g. solid white, red, or black numbers, colored or black numbers outlined in white, or yellow, etc. Some numbers were also just outlined in a specific color.

You will need to know the unit, theater, and time period to narrow down appropriate schemes for your vehicles, if you want them to be accurate for a certain unit and battle.

I hope that helps.

Pizzagrenadier03 Oct 2009 7:53 p.m. PST

I had typed out a similar response and accidentally closed the window when I was looking for a site and lost what I typed…but yeah. What he said.

Here's the site I was looking for to show you.

link

anleiher03 Oct 2009 8:04 p.m. PST

Thank you both. I purchased the DAK decals because I am to paint troops for North Africa. There also appear to be some divisional (?) symbols and some letters, eg K. Can you shed any light on those and their placement on the vehicle itself, eg. left front fender, turret, etc.?

anleiher03 Oct 2009 8:24 p.m. PST

BTW, found this sneak peak EW list for the Germans while searching. It contains information on the first 5 Panzer divisions.

PDF link

anleiher03 Oct 2009 8:53 p.m. PST

This should help. Thanks again to all of you who answered.

wwiidaybyday.com

55th Division04 Oct 2009 2:33 a.m. PST

this any good as well
link

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP04 Oct 2009 6:19 a.m. PST

The Combined Arms link is very good

Divisional markings (when used – much more common in early war) were on the front and back – the letters were unique to certain formations, i.e. von Kleist's Panzer Group in Barbarossa used a white K, Guderian's a white G

Black Bull04 Oct 2009 7:45 a.m. PST

This should help for North Africa, scroll down for marking,number systems,etc

link

Jovian104 Oct 2009 10:08 a.m. PST

Hey Anliher and others – thanks for some more great links!

donlowry04 Oct 2009 11:51 a.m. PST

A white letter K would indicate PanzerGruppe Kleist, on the Russian Front, would it not?

donlowry04 Oct 2009 11:54 a.m. PST

BTW, the enemy eventually caught on to the fact that any tank with a 0 in its 3-digit number was a HQ vehicle and targeted them, leading the Germans to use other numbers instead.

anleiher04 Oct 2009 12:01 p.m. PST

Thanks 55th. That is a very good link.

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP04 Oct 2009 2:04 p.m. PST

Don – right you are, white K is Kleist, white G is Guderian

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