| Roll Again | 28 Sep 2009 8:01 a.m. PST |
When basing galleys, would oared ships toss up much froth and white water? Should the base be all blue or would there be a white wake trailing off the oarbanks? |
| Dan Cyr | 28 Sep 2009 8:04 a.m. PST |
Interesting question. I'd suggest that the low speeds (3-8 knots I believe) would leave the hull fairly clean unless the water was rough or the ship was bow on to the wave pattern. The oars would leave a pattern and the stern of the ship might also (not white water so much as the movement). Think of a fast canoe (smile) in semi-rough water. Dan |
| Eclectic Wave | 28 Sep 2009 8:10 a.m. PST |
The Good news today Galley Slaves, is that everyone gets double rations of food and water! (Yea!) The bad news is that the Captain want's to go water skiing. |
| Roll Again | 28 Sep 2009 8:11 a.m. PST |
Can't think of canoes. I'm from the West coast. |
| BCantwell | 28 Sep 2009 8:25 a.m. PST |
Look around for photos of the Olympias when she was underway. I found one ( link that shows here under sail throwing a little foam off the prow. I generally paint some foam and wakes on my galleys ( link ). I'm not sure if it's 100% accurate, but it looks good and give an impression of movement, so I'm sticking with it Brian |
| GreyONE | 28 Sep 2009 10:18 a.m. PST |
"I generally paint some foam and wakes on my galleys ( link ). I'm not sure if it's 100% accurate, but it looks good and give an impression of movement, so I'm sticking with it" I second this. It looks good, therefore go for it. Miniatures Wargaming is about how it looks. There would be a little foam behind the stern, because I have noticed that on large sailing ships, the bow kicks up water and foam, but the majority comes from the oars. If you are rowing fast and furious, you will be kicking up foam from the oars. |
GildasFacit  | 28 Sep 2009 11:22 a.m. PST |
There would certainly be a small wake from the steering oars at least but a galley stern has a very smooth exit from the water so any other wake would have to come from the bow or the fullest part of the hull meeting a swell crest. Oars do seem (from Olympias photos) to have left a sort of 'dotted line' wake as they enter and leave the water at the start and end of each stroke but not in all sea conditions. |
| Cmde Perry | 28 Sep 2009 4:12 p.m. PST |
I would add a practical reason for painting in foam & wake, and that is that it helps (me, at least) quickly distinguish bow from stern. The slant of the prow and stern on an ancient galley seems backward to my modern-day aesthetic, so seeing the wake made for a rapid correction. |
| batesmotel34 | 03 Oct 2009 1:51 p.m. PST |
There is a zip file with several high quality pictures of the Olympias under oars alone and under sail available from the page linked to above. Definitely worth downloading and unzipping. Chris |
| GreyONE | 04 Oct 2009 3:44 p.m. PST |
"There is a zip file with several high quality pictures of the Olympias under oars alone and under sail available from the page linked to above. Definitely worth downloading and unzipping. Chris" Chris, Your comment begs the question: Where does one download this zip file from?
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