| HesseCassel | 16 Sep 2009 2:13 p.m. PST |
Soooo, I'm working painting up some generals, and realizing that I don't know what they looked like. Were they pale, ruddy, swarthy, etc? Did they have blond, black or brown hair? I've been checking various places like wiki and sealed knot, and oddly, they usually don't describe these fellows! Also, there usually aren't color portraits. Anyone have a good way to find this out? |
| Connard Sage | 16 Sep 2009 2:24 p.m. PST |
At the risk of repeating myself, the Sealed Knot is not the first stop for historical research. The NPG and other collections are the obvious places. Cromwell link Charles I link Prince Rupert link Ireton link Waller link Get the…ahem…picture? :) Can someone quote me? |
| Timbo W | 16 Sep 2009 3:37 p.m. PST |
Height might be useful too, Rupert was 6 foot 4 inches, while Charles I was 5 foot 3 inches, and became considerably shorter in 1649 ;-) |
| Timbo W | 16 Sep 2009 4:04 p.m. PST |
Oh, on a slightly more useful note, there are pics of main commanders here - link |
| pilum40 | 16 Sep 2009 4:45 p.m. PST |
So Sage….you're saying the Sealed Knot is NOT the first stop for historical research: :) I liked that "turn o' phrase"
lol |
| HesseCassel | 16 Sep 2009 5:10 p.m. PST |
"Charles I was 5 foot 3 inches, and became considerably shorter in 1649" that's just KNOT funny! hah! so wrong at so many different, ahem, "levels" Ohhhhhh, bad. |
| HesseCassel | 17 Sep 2009 12:39 p.m. PST |
At the moment, I just need the six generals in the Old Glory Parliamentary Personalities pack: Cromwell – dark brown hair, pale skin
Skippon – Grey hair?
Manchester
Waller
Essex
Fairfax Any additional info would be appreciated. The NPG didn't have pics of the Essex oil paintings, and he sat for many. Said for copyright purposes. |
| Timmo uk | 17 Sep 2009 3:03 p.m. PST |
Even if the painting exists of your chosen general you can't always be sure of the likeness… those who could afford them sometimes expected to be flattered. |
| Etranger | 18 Sep 2009 12:06 a.m. PST |
Google is your friend…. A few views of The Earl of Essex.
link link link |
| Timmo uk | 18 Sep 2009 2:20 a.m. PST |
Oh and by all accounts Cromwell was ugly as sin. |
| Calmarac | 18 Sep 2009 9:02 a.m. PST |
At the moment, I just need the six generals in the Old Glory Parliamentary Personalities pack:Cromwell – dark brown hair, pale skin
Skippon – Grey hair?
Manchester
Waller
Essex
Fairfax Any additional info would be appreciated. The British Civil Wars link that Timbo W provided above has portraits of all six (and many other ECW commanders)
link
Only Skippon and Essex are not in colour. You could also try a Google image search, as Connard and Huw suggest. Timmo uk:
…you can't always be sure of the likeness… those who could afford them sometimes expected to be flattered.Oh and by all accounts Cromwell was ugly as sin. Old Noll didn't subscribe to the school of flattery though – he asked to be painted 'warts and all'. He certainly was no oil painting ;o) linkCan't link directly to the picture URL so scroll down a bit for the Pieter van der Faes 'warts and all' portrait. |
| HesseCassel | 18 Sep 2009 10:42 a.m. PST |
"Oh and by all accounts Cromwell was ugly as sin." I think he was more concerned with internal purity and righteousness than outward appearances. Perhaps that has a beauty of its own? After all, he had a ton of children, so it must have worked for his lady! I'm mainly concerned with skin and hair color. The warts may be too hard to paint altho it'll be fun to try! |
