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Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP15 Sep 2009 4:17 a.m. PST

Not looking for VTOLs, Gunships or dropships, essentially looking for the 2250AD version of the A-10 Warthog, P-47, Ju-87 Stuka, Thunderbolt, or the Hawker Hurricane.

Im familiar with the Rebel Minis and Old Crow VTOLs…again, not what I'm looking for.

If any suggestions are given I would also appreciate a picture or a link to the miniatures site. 1/72 plastic of 20mm metal minis may work as well if such are known.

Thanks.

Von Trinkenessen15 Sep 2009 4:29 a.m. PST

We've gone down the drone route and use Combat Wombat's uav with GZG 6mm aircraft weapon upgrades (Raptor style).

Its cheaper and easier to build a descent flying stand for high level air strikes.
Also it allows me to use a flight of aircraft to make an attack.

Top Gun Ace15 Sep 2009 4:39 a.m. PST

The Old Crow 15mm Alien Grav Tank and APC would work, if you can get past their names.

They look more like ground attack aircraft, or spacefighters to me.

Ironsides15 Sep 2009 4:39 a.m. PST

I once planned to use the Romulan Warbird from AMT/Ertl as a strikebomber for one of my 15mm races and the Klingon Bird of prey for a Terran future A10.

jpattern215 Sep 2009 5:07 a.m. PST

If the Klingon Bird of Prey weren't such an instantly recognizable design, I agree that it would make a great future A-10 proxy.

I agree with Ace, the Old Crow Alien Grav Tanks would work nicely. Add a few more guns, some underwing stores, and she's ready to go.

Leutenant Brittan15 Sep 2009 5:12 a.m. PST

Doesnt Rebel Miniatures produce some nice VTOLs too?

ZeroGee215 Sep 2009 6:55 a.m. PST

Try ebay for some of the old "conceptual" plastic kits brought out back when no-one really knew what the F117 Stealth actually looked like – there were a couple in either 1/72 or 1/144, including a Russian equivalent, that were completely fictional and make great SF aircraft; it doesn't take much conversion work on the cockpits to make them look right for 15mm (1/100).

Jon (GZG)

NoLongerAMember15 Sep 2009 7:02 a.m. PST

Hinds without the rotors look good.

commanderroj15 Sep 2009 7:34 a.m. PST

Try ebay for some of the old "conceptual" plastic kits brought out back when no-one really knew what the F117 Stealth actually looked like – there were a couple in either 1/72 or 1/144, including a Russian equivalent, that were completely fictional and make great SF aircraft; it doesn't take much conversion work on the cockpits to make them look right for 15mm (1/100).

Jon (GZG)

The Italieri MiG-37 Ferret? A very nice design!

Only Warlock15 Sep 2009 7:42 a.m. PST

Mig37B, used to have that kit!

link

ZeroGee215 Sep 2009 7:48 a.m. PST

Yep, that's the one! Makes a really nice SF aerospace fighter.

Hexxenhammer15 Sep 2009 8:34 a.m. PST

Don't forget the F-19! My favorite flight simulator from when I was a kid. Looks like there are models:

link

More space-fighter less ground attack though. But I certainly fired a lot of Maverick missiles into radar stations with one.

wolvermonkey15 Sep 2009 8:48 a.m. PST

Brigade Models makes a 15mm sci-fi airplane.

link

Lion in the Stars15 Sep 2009 10:47 a.m. PST

Also, check Hobbylink Japan, they've got a lot of 1/100 scale scifi aircraft, from many different series. Especially take a look at the "Supersylph Yukikaze" stuff ( link ), it looks seriously futuristic but still recognizably human.

For Example:
Yukikaze herself: hlj.com/product/BAN918004
The Sylphid: hlj.com/product/PLZX-10
JMSDF F/A-27C: hlj.com/product/PLZX-11
And a little weirder, FAND-II: hlj.com/product/YLSAY-004XF

Top Gun Ace15 Sep 2009 11:17 a.m. PST

Wow, the $140 USD kits are a bit rich, but the others for around $14.00, or so look very nice.

jpattern215 Sep 2009 11:22 a.m. PST

Yes, they're futuristic, and beautiful designs in their own right, but the problem with the speculative F-117, MiG-37, F-19, and all of the Yukikaze birds is that they don't look at all like dedicated ground-attack aircraft. They're all too fragile looking.

For ground attack, you want something that looks like it could take a hit from a howitzer and still keep flying.

Uesugi Kenshin is looking for a futuristic equivalent of the A-10 Warthog: picture

Or the Su-25/Su-39 Frogfoot: picture

They're not real pretty, but just look at all those hardpoints for ordnance!

infojunky15 Sep 2009 12:00 p.m. PST

I kinda like the snow speeders from the Titanium line, the trick is finding them.

Personal logo javelin98 Supporting Member of TMP15 Sep 2009 12:18 p.m. PST

A modern helicopter without rotors and with A-10 engines affixed to the upper fuselage might have a sufficiently sci-fi look. The Eurocopter Tigre, Apache, Mangusta, and Ka-50/52 all have an angular futuristic look to them. Heck, the Ka-50 would look like a cool small fighter just with its rotors removed.

Eli Arndt15 Sep 2009 5:45 p.m. PST

Get something small like a Bronco in 1/72 or something and paint it to fit with 15mm. P38 Lightning could also be put into suitable drag too.

-Eli

Personal logo javelin98 Supporting Member of TMP16 Sep 2009 9:10 a.m. PST

The Star Wars clone Arc Fighter is available in a smaller scale for $15 USD or so. That might be able to kitbashed into a nifty CAS aircraft.

Lion in the Stars16 Sep 2009 12:33 p.m. PST

I dunno, the Yukikaze birds had huge underwing stores loads, I guess they could look a little fragile.

How about the true-scale fliers from the CAV line? link

Like the Kraken, Merlin, or Ghast?

khurasanminiatures16 Sep 2009 3:20 p.m. PST

As soon as Neil Burt finishes painting it, our Sea Wasp light anti-grav vehicle should be real nice for this. Each kit will have three options -- missile turret, double cannon turret, or a big dish sensor.

Should be up for sale in a few weeks, along with the new drop pod.

Atb
khurasanminiatures.tripod.com

Top Gun Ace16 Sep 2009 4:55 p.m. PST

You could always add more weapons under the wings/fuselage, or assume they have been fired already.

One of the jets looks as if it is carrying a large, winged droptank, which could either be that, or a very large weapon as well.

For $14.00, plus shipping, I think they are a great deal, since they are already assembled and painted.

I agree though, that they look better suited to air-to-air, or space combat.

jpattern216 Sep 2009 5:40 p.m. PST

I agree that some of those CAV ships would be perfect.

Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP18 Sep 2009 6:37 a.m. PST

"How about the true-scale fliers from the CAV line?
Like the Kraken, Merlin, or Ghast?"

These are outstanding looking, but arent all Cav models 1/300 which would make them too small for 15mm minis?

Does anyone have any of the Cav aircraft to comapre in size w/ 15mm minis?

Thanx for the input so far.

Lion in the Stars18 Sep 2009 12:58 p.m. PST

No, Cav models are 1/144 scale, and the *True-scale* aircraft are also 1/144 (10/12mm).

The older, 2-per-pack aircraft are 1/300, I think.

Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP18 Sep 2009 1:47 p.m. PST

Very Cool Lion. That should do the trick. Thanks.

Anyone who has Cav models, a pic w/ 15mm figures would be appreciated!

Ijumpajav18 Sep 2009 7:26 p.m. PST

In my opinion the cav models "Truescale", do not work for ground comparison.. You can not put a "Truescale Fenri, next to a any 15mm figure and get a good proportional match up….Not even close. What might work is to put them on 6 to 12 inch brass rod and "FLY Them" over the battle field. Sorry for no picts but a 15mm fig from GZG could not fit his leg in the cockpit of the truescale models.

Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP18 Sep 2009 8:42 p.m. PST

Thats a great idea Ljump. I was planning on standard 2-3" high plastic flight bases, but your idea would give a much better visual appeal. Thanks.

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