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petit tondu13 Sep 2009 11:13 a.m. PST

Hi,

It's me again, searching (again…:-)) for some help.
I am painting cameron highlanders (79th foot) and (thanks to you) got the hint to make the tartans.

My question is about hornpipers : Was the bag of the hornpipe the distinctive color of the regiment (plain green), or was it covered with the unit tartan ?

I have contradictory sources : the box illustration show regimental plain color, but some sites show tartans for hornpipe bags.

Any hints ?

TIA,

Bruno.

Connard Sage13 Sep 2009 11:19 a.m. PST

If you'll excuse me correcting you Bruno, it's 'bagpipes'. Hornpipe is a completely different instrument

As far as I know, the bag was plain, not tartan. It's how I painted my highlanders at any rate

How's the weather around Paris BTW?

Artilleryman13 Sep 2009 11:31 a.m. PST

The bagpipes tended to be the property of the musician himself as the pipers (no 'horns' please) were 'employed' by the regiment rather than on the establishment, i.e. they were on the books as soldiers and thus officially were 'misemployed' as pipers (something that still happens in some regiments today). As a result the cover for the bag could be of various hues, but a plain one is most realistic. Tartan would be most unlikely as the predilection for covering everything Scottish with it was a later affectation which began after the Napoleonic Wars.

petit tondu13 Sep 2009 11:46 a.m. PST

Hello great Sage,

Thanks for the hint and especially correcting me. I appreciate because I don't like to see huge translation mistakes in Frech, so I never like doing the same on the other side .
I thought hornpipe was correct because of Hornblower's marine fictions. In French, they translate the patronym issues he had in the first books as being "joueur de cornemuse (in french)" for horn-blower. As "cornemuse (fr)" is the instrument we are talking about, I thought it's english name was "hornpipe". I was wrong, sorry for that…

Otherwise weather in Paris is fine, not really hot but nice (around 20 celsius degrees): Sunny sunday today, but hard & low light past 4PM,a bit as if we ever were in autumn. Few rainy days are planned for next week.

Weren't you planning a trip in France by end September ?


Bruno.

Connard Sage13 Sep 2009 11:50 a.m. PST

Please don't apologise Bruno, your English is much better than my French :)

We're in Paris for a week from the 19th, which is why I asked about the weather. We haven't been in September before, I was wondering if I should pack extra jackets :)

petit tondu13 Sep 2009 11:50 a.m. PST

Artilleryman,

Sorry for the mistake, and thanks for the background story of bagpipes in highlanders regiments.

Mine will be plain regiment color, so green for the Cameron one.

Bruno.

rmaker13 Sep 2009 4:54 p.m. PST

The hornpipe was, in fact, a dance style, not an instrument.

Connard Sage13 Sep 2009 5:31 p.m. PST

The hornpipe was, in fact, a dance style, not an instrument.


Well, maybe

colinhume.com/hornpipe.htm

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