"What the??" Topic

Now I'm really confused!

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Tarleton's British Legion.

That's the bluest "green" I've seen in a while…

db

Thanks for the link to the site 95th.
I am painting up some 54mm British, 18th Regiment of foot and I found an image on that site.

Joe

Presumably this was researched by James Kochan, who does most of the background work for Troiani's AWI paintings.

Despite having spent some time investigating the uniforms of the Light Dragoons in America, especially the 16th's headgear, I have never come across this dress. If this depiction is correct, it would be the precursor of the 1784 light cavalry uniform reforms that produced the "look" more usually associated with the French Revolutionary and Peninsula period.

There are a lot of new images in Mr Troiani's AWI gallery; he's obviously been a busy boy lately. The next image on from the 16th LD in blue coatees is Bunker Hill – I'm intrigued by the "red" British regimental colour being waved about in the background. It could be orange, which would be the 35th, but only the flank companies of that regiment were involved in the battle.

Despite having spent some time investigating the uniforms of the Light Dragoons in America, especially the 16th's headgear, I have never come across this dress. If this depiction is correct, it would be the precursor of the 1784 light cavalry uniform reforms that produced the "look" more usually associated with the French Revolutionary and Peninsula period.
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This is kinda radical for AWI. For years everyone thought the 16th wore the same uniform and helmet as the 17th,as Mollo and Lefferts depicted them. Then Perry's come along and have them in the crested helmet.Now THIS! So now the Perry figures are wrong!
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The next image on from the 16th LD in blue coatees is Bunker Hill – I'm intrigued by the "red" British regimental colour being waved about in the background. It could be orange, which would be the 35th, but only the flank companies of that regiment were involved in the battle.
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I noticed that as well! I know a guy who posed for that,and I asked him what it was, but got no answer.
I speculated Royal Marines,as I know they were there,but they had a white color I believe with an anchor.

Good stuff though!

Bob

I have a collection of reenactor pics I've pulled off the web over the years. Among these is a curious shot of two blue-coated British dragoons standing in a line with more traditionally-dressed, dismounted 16th light dragoons. The uniform in the pic is not a perfect match for the one in Troiani's painting. For example, all of the dragoons in the pic (red and blue coated) have a cap with a light infantry-style front, all have visible lapels, all have coat tails, and the cuffs are not pointed. I'm unacquainted with the research on this question.

The flag is certainly that of one of the two marine battalions. Fifedrum.org shows them with a white flag but has this accompanying text:

"Marines of the 18th c were generally not regimented, but rather worked in small units aboard vessels and ashore. Therefore, colours were not as intregal to the marines as with army regiments. The exception to this, of course, is the two battalions of marines stationed in Boston in 1775. There were three grand divisions of marines in Portsmouth, Plymouth and Chatham, England. All three of these may have had different colours, or not."

White seems like a good guess for the flag because it matches the facing color of the marines, but the red flag in that painting looks absolutely terrific.

I have a collection of reenactor pics I've pulled off the web over the years. Among these is a curious shot of two blue-coated British dragoons standing in a line with more traditionally-dressed, dismounted 16th light dragoons. The uniform in the pic is not a perfect match for the one in Troiani's painting. For example, all of the dragoons in the pic (red and blue coated) have a cap with a light infantry-style front, all have visible lapels, all have coat tails, and the cuffs are not pointed. I'm unacquainted with the research on this questi.
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I also have a pic of reenactor dragoons,and indeed there is one guy in blue faced white. I asked about that at the event and was told it was the farrier.(?) I believe he was part of a 17th group.

I know Don does extensive research before doing any project,so I'm not one to question the validity of that,or the red color in his Bunker Hill print.

Bob