"Pike-Heavy Scots" Topic
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| David M | 09 Sep 2009 4:00 p.m. PST |
In most rule sets for the ECW Scottish troops are considered "pike heavy", often with a 1:1 or 3:2 pike:shot ratio. Why is this? Given Scottish experiments with light artillery and their history of continental service, I would expect Scottish troops to be reasonably up-to-date in their thinking in these matters. |
| Connard Sage | 09 Sep 2009 4:04 p.m. PST |
Covenanters or Montrose Royalist? |
| David M | 09 Sep 2009 4:19 p.m. PST |
Oh, right! Sorry – I was thinking of the covenanters. Since Montrose's troops were living off what they could pillage and pick up, I imagine it's hard to know just what they had at any one time. But do we know that the government militias were issued more pikes than muskets or that "regular" troops who served (at various points) in England or the regiments at Dunbar were pike heavy? I realize that covers a lot of ground, but rule sets seem to characterize the Scots as pike heavy throughout the period. |
| Connard Sage | 09 Sep 2009 4:47 p.m. PST |
FWIW, a quick browse of three random sets of rules/lists came up with the following WRG 1420-1700: List 38; musket from 1 to 2 per pike (so 1m:1p/2m:1p) DBR army lists 2: List 19; Pikemen 4 per 6 shot (or 2p:3m) Forlorn Hope pp76-77 gives ratios of 2m:3p, 1:1 and 3:2 in 1644. p81 has 3m:2p in 1646 Hardly conclusive, but there you go |
| Berlichtingen | 09 Sep 2009 4:51 p.m. PST |
For the same reason that Royalist regiments were pike heavy… muskets cost considerably more than pikes do |
| French Wargame Holidays | 10 Sep 2009 3:15 p.m. PST |
powder is the biggest problem IMO cheers
matt |
| koyli1968 | 11 Sep 2009 5:08 a.m. PST |
Cost is always a consideration despite the armour and pike(which is already in stock so no additional cost) then money would need to be spent on muskets and powder and many units had no access to such funding. |
 piper909  | 11 Sep 2009 10:14 p.m. PST |
What they said. Mingy cheapskates! |
| reddrabs | 12 Sep 2009 5:06 a.m. PST |
Tradition? In fact Gustavus Adolphus (according to some) was a pike promoter in his regiments. I also wonder if they expected to have to fight more cavalry? |
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