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green beanie03 Sep 2009 1:19 p.m. PST

OK, what is the difference between the P-40C Tomahawk and the P-40E Warhawk? Look forward to your help and was wondering if you had the two planes sitting there, could you spot the difference at a glance?

OldGrenadier at work03 Sep 2009 1:26 p.m. PST

I could, but I'm a P-40 freak :) Basically, the P-40E had a deeper chin radiator and no machine guns firing through the propeller. Many P-40E's had Rolls Royce Merlins, of which most were license-built by Packard. It didn't help much.

zippyfusenet03 Sep 2009 2:32 p.m. PST

Very noticable difference in the engine compartment and cockpit. The P-40E has a deeper front fuselage than the C.

John Belushi flew a P-40E in 1941 and so did Sky Captain in the World of Tomorrow. Both planes arguably should have been Cs, but I think there are no surviving flyable P-40Cs. Probably not too many Es either, but it's feasible to convert a P-40N's canopy so it *looks* like an E…

Mikhail Lerementov03 Sep 2009 3:00 p.m. PST

I can't resist. The P-40 is the E that Belushi used. He absolutely trashed the cockpit. Flew it on the wing of the Tora Zero when they had problems with the FM-2 being cranky. A great ride.

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King Cobra03 Sep 2009 3:16 p.m. PST

The armament was different as noted above. I believe both C and E were Allison powered and it was the F that had a Packard built Merlin.

PaulAD03 Sep 2009 5:47 p.m. PST

P-40 Cs had Allisons with the propeller shaft coming out near the center of the nose (when looking from the side) and two guns and a carbuerator scoop on top of the nose.

P-40 Es and later had Allisons with the prop shaft near the top of the nose, so the nose looks more flat on top. No guns on the nose, just the carb scoop. bigger air scoop for radiators and oil coolers under the nose.

P-40 Fs had the Merlin. Easy to spot because the Merlin takes in air from below, no carb intake on top of the nose. Most Fs and later variants had a lengthened fuselage. The rudder will stick out well past the elevators instead of being about even with them.

OldGrenadier Fezian03 Sep 2009 6:13 p.m. PST

My work alter ego is mortified by his mistake and stands corrected :)

RockyRusso04 Sep 2009 12:07 p.m. PST

Hi

The C has 4 x 30cal and 2 x 50, the latter firing throught the prop.

The E, has 6x50 in the wings and the oil cooler in the bottom airscoop.

The F and L have the early merlin. The F is initially a converted E, but in later series gets a longer fuselage behind the canopy and becomes the L.

With the N, the N is a lightened E and losing 2 of the 50s and gets the later squared off canopy also used on the L.

Rocky

zippyfusenet04 Sep 2009 6:22 p.m. PST

Great anecdote Mikhail Lerementov, I'm sure Belushi left that cockpit full of cigar butts, crumpled beer cans, empty Fritos bags and roaches. You say you flew that bird? I am green with envy.

Mikhail Lerementov05 Sep 2009 11:17 a.m. PST

Not to mention he flailed around actually breaking a couple of instruments. He viewed the a/c as a prop instead of million dollar aircraft he should have been a bit more respectful of.

I'm glad I got to fly it when I did. The owner has a couple of Spits one still in pieces, but the other flyable. Much hotter plane than the 40 with twice the horses. On the other hand the previous time out with it he had to shut it down an bring it back because of an engine problem. The 40 has yet to have an engine problem, and I just wasn't willing to maybe prang a million dollar warbird, and heck, it's in AVG markings. Who could resist.

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