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pbhawkin30 Aug 2009 3:36 a.m. PST

Hi all,
I have updated my compilation of the above as well as included aome French and Italian colours too.
Please go to the following link and scroll to post number nine (9) to download it.

link

Regards
Peter
petersplanes.com

Old Smokie30 Aug 2009 5:59 a.m. PST

does not work keeps telling me "an error has occured"

Derek H30 Aug 2009 11:09 a.m. PST

Tells me I don't have permission to view the attachment.

Idoites130 Aug 2009 3:51 p.m. PST

I get the same message. "You do not…"

pbhawkin30 Aug 2009 7:48 p.m. PST

You may have to join the forum to be able to download it.
It is an Excel file format and so I can not post it here or most sites as they only allow JPG format (or similar).
I'm sorry there is no other way to post/host it unless someone can suggest something?
Anyway, LEMB is a VERY informative forum with LOTS of info. YOu won't regret joining.

Peter

pbhawkin03 Sep 2009 2:37 a.m. PST

here is another place you can try to download from.
link
You will have to have a Yahoo Groups sign on to access it though.
But this Yahoo group is a great source of 1/144 (and other small scale) models and information.

Regards
Peter
petersplanes.com

pbhawkin02 Oct 2009 7:16 a.m. PST

Hi all,
I have now hosted the latest file on my website at:
petersplanes.com/links.htm

hope you find it useful.
Remember it is a compilation from numerous sources, any errors you find please let me know, but I take no responsibility for the accuracy of the actual mixes!

Regards
Peter
petersplanes.com

pbhawkin28 Oct 2009 8:30 p.m. PST

Hi,
I have updated the chart with the latest information as of 29 OCT 09.
please download it from petersplanes.com/links.htm
Don't forget to save it to your computer after it opens!

I have also produced a paint chart of most of the RLM colours and their hobby paint equivalents in the Testors Model Master, Tamiya, Humbrol and JPS Modell paints range. This allows a direct visual comparison between what these manufacturers state as being appropriate for the respective RLM colour.
JPS is by far the most true to the colour chips in Merrick and Kiroff's Classic Colours publication "Luftwaffe Camouflage and Markings 1933-1945" Vol.2. But this should be no suprise as Mr.Popp (who makes JPS paint) worked with Mr. J.Kiroff in producing his paint range!
The Model Master range comes a close second with their RLM 71 and 83 versions being way out (although the 83 may represent the 'Greener' 83 version than what Merrick has?).

I am waiting on some more paints to complete this chart and will then scan it in or photograph it and also put it on my website.

Regards
Peter
petersplanes.com

pbhawkin17 Nov 2009 4:23 p.m. PST

Hi all.
I have updated the chart with the latest information as of 17 Nov 09.
please download it from petersplanes.com/links.htm

I have updated my Excel sheet for Tamiya and Humbrol paint equivalents for (most) RLM,
French, Italian, RAF/FAA and USA colours.
It now has 13 references of suggestions for various mixes to achieve (supposedly) a match to the actual WW2 colours.
Remember these are other peoples suggestions as to what they thought was a best match and I have only compiled them into this one spot.
The latest reference is the Testors Model Master, 'Modeler's Technical Guide' book.
I have added some notes about some of the paint suggestions and mixes in the RLM section as to what I have tried against the Merrick colour chips (some are way off!).

I have also added to my website in the links section a colour chart of RLM paint chips taken from Merrick's book (Luftwaffe Camouflage and Markings 1933-1945 Vol.2 2005) along with
a couple from the Kookaburra book by J. Smith (The Modeller's Luftwaffe Painting Guide 1979) and equivalents from Testor's Model Master enamels, Humbrol Enamels, Tamiya acrylics and JPS acrylic paints.

The small notations under some paint matches(2:34, 5:116) is firstly the ratio and secondly the paint number (for Tamiya and Humbrol mixes).
'HCS' refers to a mix as per the Humbrol Colour Systems book.
JPS paint was included as Mr. Popp, who makes this paint in Germany, worked in conjunction with Mr. J. Kiroff, who was the paint technology advisor in Merrick's book, to make the JPS range of paints.

You will note a couple of alternate colour chips (2005 Merrick versus 1979 Smith) for RLM79 and 83 and that different manufacturers have made their matches to one colour but not the
other (IE Model Master to the 1979 Smith Greener RLM83 and JPS to the 2005 Merrick darker RLM83 colour).

I am missing the JPS RLM79 paint (can anyone point me to a bottle).

So after finishing the chart it appears that the Model Master and certainly the JPS paints are essentially correct straight from the bottle.

pbhawkin08 Dec 2009 2:31 a.m. PST

HI,
I have updated my chart today (8 Dec 09) to include the Czech paint maker Agama suggestions.
please download it from petersplanes.com/links.htm

regards
Peter

pbhawkin18 Dec 2009 4:16 p.m. PST

Hi,
Have updated the spreadsheet with some more Tamiya references and also some weathering suggestions.

Timmo uk28 Dec 2009 1:03 p.m. PST

Peter

I'd be interested to see what you make of the Vallejo matches as those I've used seem pretty good to me and often better IMHO than those you've shown so far.

I'm no expert on these things but as I write I was happy with those I used.

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