| Terry37 | 09 Aug 2009 7:23 p.m. PST |
I have the Ian Heath China book and know the Chinese used 2 man Jingals, but am trying to find out if the Afghans used them during he 2nd Afghan War or if the Indians used them in the Indian Mutiny. Can any one share in info or recommend a source of info? Thanks, Terry |
| Inquisitor Thaken | 09 Aug 2009 7:54 p.m. PST |
Definitely not. Tunes and lyrics specifically made for advertising did not come about until the first mass market radio advertising in the 1920s. |
| The Jim Jones Cocktail Hour | 09 Aug 2009 9:44 p.m. PST |
Long firearms were used by both Indian and Afghan tribesmen into the mid 20th C. The most common type being the jezail. These could be quite imposing, similar to a European wall gun. There is a form of heavy firearm, akin to the Chinese Jingal called a Zamburak (sp?)that was camel mounted. IIRc Foundry produce one in their Mutiny range. |
 Der Alte Fritz  | 09 Aug 2009 10:03 p.m. PST |
I seem to recall some company (Foundry?) making a two man Afghan gun that was similar to the jingal. |
| Jay Arnold | 09 Aug 2009 11:47 p.m. PST |
The large trucks (lorries to our British cousins) they use here are bedecked with bells, windchimes and all other sorts of noise-making apparatuses. We call them jingle trucks. Does that count? (Probably not.)  |
 John the OFM | 10 Aug 2009 6:40 a.m. PST |
Do their spurs jingle jangle jingal? |
| Frederick | 10 Aug 2009 7:03 a.m. PST |
You guys are hopeless Funny, though As to the Afghans, here is comment on their long rifles from someone who is certainly entitled to give an opinion: "The Jezailchis are so called from their jezails or long rifles. The Afghans are said to be among the best marksmen in the world. They are accustomed to arms from early boyhood, live in a chronic state of warfare with their neighbors, and are most skilful in taking advantage of cover. An Afghan will throw himself flat, behind a stone barely big enough to cover his head, and scoop a hollow in the ground with his left elbow as he loads. Men like these only require training to make first-rate irregular troops." — General Colin Mackenzie |
| Norscaman | 10 Aug 2009 9:44 a.m. PST |
"Genuine Curry, just a dash 'll do ya!" I remember it well! |
| Florida Tory | 10 Aug 2009 2:02 p.m. PST |
Tunes and lyrics for advertising may have waited until the 1920's, but in polictcal races, they were definitely in use in the 19th century. So the use of jingles (American spelling) definitely would be in period! (Think "Old Abe Lincoln came out of the wilderness", sung to the same tune that is used today for "Here we sit like birds in the wilderness." His presidential campaigns were right between the periods of the Indian Mutiny and the 2nd Afghan War.) Rick |
| Uesugi Kenshin | 11 Aug 2009 2:51 a.m. PST |
I thought you ment, "Jingles" …as in, "Don't come to Afghanistan…you'll die to a man!" |
| Terry37 | 11 Aug 2009 6:29 p.m. PST |
Humor is fine and thank you. I gather from the straight answers that the Afghans/Pathans didn't really have them like the Chinese did, but did have the jezail, which I am familiar with. Terry |
| Florida Tory | 11 Aug 2009 7:57 p.m. PST |
It's nice to see a sequence of posts that both answers the original question and maintains a sense of humor. Rick |
| Rudysnelson | 12 Aug 2009 8:22 a.m. PST |
In 25mm, Richard Houston's Colonial range had several jingal teams. |
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