| reddrabs | 28 Jul 2009 1:37 p.m. PST |
I've been told that this wonderful substance has changed and is no longer wonderful.
Any comments?
Please note that I was told by a member of IPMS and this is not trolling. |
| Griefbringer | 28 Jul 2009 2:04 p.m. PST |
AFAIK excessive cross-posting is not the way to a brighter future. |
| Jovian1 | 28 Jul 2009 2:19 p.m. PST |
I doubt it – it is still an acrylic polymer coating in liquid form – if it has changed I've not noticed it. Do you know when they changed it – my bottle is about 2 years old. |
aecurtis  | 28 Jul 2009 2:41 p.m. PST |
Where are you located? In the US, S.C. Johnson's Future has changed its name to Pledge with Future Shine, but the formula is the same. I checked with the company some months ago when the label changed, and posted the info here on TMP. In the UK, what was the exact equivalent--Kleer--has been removed from the market. A substitute, marketed as Pledge Parket Plus, has appeared in the Netherlands (according to info posted on the Too Fat Lardies Yahoo group), but it appears to be a different formula, as it is milky, although it dries clear. The best source of information on the availability of Future, under various names, is: link Swanny doesn't mention the recent appearance of the Dutch product, but has the rest covered, AFAIK. Allen |
| reddrabs | 30 Jul 2009 2:14 p.m. PST |
Cheers
The cross-posting was to get responses from as many experts asI could. I'm in the UK and several d-i-y shops do not have it. Aecurtis, you cleared up a lot. Ta pal. |
| donlowry | 30 Jul 2009 4:26 p.m. PST |
You mean the future is out of date? |
| Gravett Islander | 01 Aug 2009 8:15 a.m. PST |
Don't worry, the future will soon be past its' sell by date. |
| Marc the plastics fan | 07 Oct 2009 9:41 a.m. PST |
Sorry, did not see this post. The Future I bought in Waitrose last weekend in an opaque white bottle comes out brown – do not know what colour it dries. It is a 750ml bottle The 500ml clear bottle/clear varnish is no longer being made I believe. Amazon have silly prices. Yuk! |
| Jeff of SaxeBearstein | 07 Oct 2009 1:42 p.m. PST |
I'm in Canada and "Future" has also disappeared here. Instead the stores now carry "Pledge with Future" in 795ml clear plastic bottles. It looks and smells the same as old "Future" . . . so it looks like it is simply name changes in North America.
-- Jeff
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 BigRedBat  | 08 Oct 2009 1:36 a.m. PST |
I ordered a 500ml bottle of Kleer from Ocado, this morning. I hope it doesn't dry too brown… Simon |
Marc33594  | 08 Oct 2009 4:37 a.m. PST |
Humidity can be a factor. Florida here. I recently was using Future on some shell holes wanting a "wet" look as well as some small puddles of standing water. The application was quite thick and initially was drying with a very milky cast to it. However, when fully dried, was crystal clear. I suspect, regardless of look in the bottle, since it was designed for floors any product which eventually dried either milky or with a brown tint wouldnt last too long on the market. |
| capncarp | 08 Oct 2009 5:29 p.m. PST |
So… the Future is just what it always has been? |
| WarpSpeed | 08 Oct 2009 6:41 p.m. PST |
Back in 1990 i worked in a hobbyshop and discovered the future floor wax article in either fsm or military modeller.Eager to try this innovative weathering technique,i grabbed a T-72 kit.The kit was finished in Soviet green and tamiya desert sand,then i light wash of future cut with minute black wash ,treads received a similar brown wash.kit was dry brushed ,dull coated and given a grumbacher dry chalk drybrushing and final dull coat to lock it in. Was a remarkable job but by 1995 the general appearance seemed to darken with time.Same kit is now 20 years old and looks like british black -green. |
| Garryowen | 12 Oct 2009 3:24 p.m. PST |
I have just bought some Future and wanted to dry this Magic Wash. In reviewing the recent threads on it, I saw the one above by Warp Speed. I am wondering if any other users could provide info on:
1. Whether or not there has been a darkening problem.
2. How long you have had it on your figures/vehicles?
3. If you have not had a darkening problem, do you know of anything you did to avoid it?
4. If you did have a darkening problem, do you know of anyting you did to cause it? Thanks for any insight. Tom |
| Garryowen | 13 Oct 2009 9:18 a.m. PST |
I decided I would get more responses with a new thread. So I did one. Tom |
| phil bagnall | 16 Oct 2009 5:55 a.m. PST |
Hearing the news I popped into my local Waitrose and was sad to see that here in the UK, Klear has also left the shelf. In its place is the Pledge with Future/Klear as described, in an opaque bottle and with milky contents with a hint of brown – boo. Only saving grace is I bought a bottle last year of the kosher stuff and have used less than 50ml to date! |
| bobblanchett | 16 Oct 2009 6:49 a.m. PST |
ive been to the johnson site in Australia.. cant find it here..
has anyone found it or a substitute? |
| WarpSpeed | 16 Oct 2009 10:42 p.m. PST |
Lads ,i admit that as a pack rat ,i have all of my 1/35th armour from the early 80s,dullcoated,dust might haunt them but a quick air gun and clen brush,drybrushing brings them up to speed ,not so the future finish kits ,how many plastic models survive 30 years tho? |
| Steve W | 17 Oct 2009 3:15 a.m. PST |
I use 'Pledge One Go' in Australia Bob…Seems to be the same stuff..I got it in Coles asnd its a white bottle with a blue cap |
| Stefanpanzer | 17 Oct 2009 2:26 p.m. PST |
I guess I'll have to get 'Pledge with Furutre/Kleer' and try and see if it still acts as a thinner as the Kleer did. |
| Karellian Knight | 20 Oct 2009 4:34 a.m. PST |
I have used the new Pledge with Future and it dried clear for me. Smells a bit odd but works the same as the old Future. |
