"French false gold lace" Topic
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| fff2008 | 28 Jul 2009 10:01 a.m. PST |
Hi there, Anyone have a good idea on what "false" gold, or silver lace (the stuff that goes on rank & file hats in 18C French armies)look like, and how you could paint that on a figure (that's 15mm for me)? I must admit for lack of a better idea, I'm just doing yellow (albeit "golden yellow") for the false gold, and a very sky grey for the false silver. The relevant section of the army museum in Paris has been closed for months, impossible to go & see if they have the real stuff. fff |
| Connard Sage | 28 Jul 2009 10:24 a.m. PST |
The relevant section of the army museum in Paris has been closed for months, impossible to go & see if they have the real stuff. It's been closed for years. Do you reckon it will be open in September? <edit> Musee de l'Armee site says 'reouverture fin 2009, so I suppose that's a 'no'. I use off-white and yellow |
 Der Alte Fritz  | 28 Jul 2009 11:01 a.m. PST |
Ditto to the colors used by Connard Sage when I paint hat lace. |
| fff2008 | 29 Jul 2009 9:54 a.m. PST |
Well that's the best I can think of. Considering it is apparently a mix of metallic threads and yellow, I was vaguely thinking it might look like some of the plastic "golden" (/silver) ribbon one uses for the packing of presents, metal-satin-like, but I'm beaten how to achieve that kind of rendering on a figure … |
| fff2008 | 29 Jul 2009 9:58 a.m. PST |
BTW Connard Sage, some time earlier this year I asked the girl at the cash desk in the Museum when this wing of the museum would open again, and I do think she mumbled something about third quarter this year, so there is some hope, but that may be mere propaganda. L'espoir fait vivre … |
| 18th Century Guy | 30 Jul 2009 8:18 a.m. PST |
I do the same for coloring as others listed here but if you put a finishing coat of matte over you figures you could go back and paint on some 'gloss' over the false gold/silver lines to give it that reflective look. |
| Connard Sage | 30 Jul 2009 8:27 a.m. PST |
Thank you fff2008. We'll have to wait and see, again. As it's been threatening to reopen since 2006 I shan't hold my breath :) |
| seneffe | 01 Aug 2009 1:45 p.m. PST |
'False gold' was not just white or yellow. In general costume terms it was a kind of cheap tinselly material which would appear quite brightly and sparkly metalic. Proper gold lace was less bright but deeper and richer. A slightly later example of 'false gold' on uniforms is the tinsel like lace of the troopers of the British Lifeguards of the Nap period, where the officers are noted as having 'real' gold lace.
Perhaps the false gold faded more quickly, but it was metallic. |
| fff2008 | 01 Aug 2009 3:12 p.m. PST |
So, more like gold (/silver) than yellow (/white)? Has someone ever tried to mix yellow and gold paint ? Maybe that does the trick. |
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