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cooey2ph27 Jul 2009 6:06 p.m. PST

An update for a product I'm waiting for

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Andy Skinner27 Jul 2009 6:38 p.m. PST

I haven't seen anything saying these were 1/72. Sorry if I missed it on your page. Could you point out the reference?

thanks
andy

GreatScot7227 Jul 2009 7:03 p.m. PST

I recall seeing a TMP news article about these. The feeling I got from the article was that they are true 25mm. If that is true, I am sure some people would feel okay mixing them with 1/72s.

tberry740327 Jul 2009 7:13 p.m. PST

If you read his blog HE states it's 1/72 (just before the numbered list of "features").

If you follow the link to boardgamegeek their review states the figures are "true 25mm". This review gives a very good overview of the game components.

link

The Starter Packs ($34.99) contain 110 figures total from the three initial factions. You can also get Army Packs (40 figures), Cavalry Packs (15 figures) for $14.99 USD and Booster packs of between 5 and 10 figures (depending of size) for $11.99.

The "common" figures are unpainted with colored tempo prints on banners and shields. The uncommons, rares and Commander figures are "fully prepainted".

While it is "collectable" all but the Starter Packs are faction specific.

The official Website is:

arcanelegions.com

Tim

Redroom27 Jul 2009 7:24 p.m. PST

I like the minotaur a lot

deanoware27 Jul 2009 7:34 p.m. PST

They are 1/72. I saw them at Origins 2009.

KnightTemplarr27 Jul 2009 8:42 p.m. PST

I saw them yesterday in my FLGS. They ran the first demo on last Friday. The players thought the game was really pretty cool

Acharnement28 Jul 2009 12:03 a.m. PST

It looks pretty cool. 1/72 will be fine by me- more troops on the table. There is the possibility of using the figures for other games as well, thus increasing the value of the purchase.

Glenn M28 Jul 2009 3:23 a.m. PST

That looks cool, shame I play mostly with 28mm, however, I imagine many of the monstrous types will be handy for me anyways.

cooey2ph28 Jul 2009 4:05 a.m. PST

Hi, sorry about the confusion re the scale. Their webpage clearly identifies the figures as 25mm, and the entry at BGG identifies these as "true 25mm" -- which I freely mix with plastic 1/72s if they are of the older "25mm vintage"-- and I thus equated with 1/72. I should have made that clear in the blog entry.

link

Here's another TMP thread concerning the problem of scale with a nice story about John Mcewan's campaign to standardize the sizes when making the figure sculpts.

TMP link

And another link to another scale discussion (and an enjoyable read):
intonet.co.uk/~rblack

IMHO, the figures would be a welcome addition to the small scale plastic fantasy genre, much like Caesar's initial offerings. I'm eagerly waiting the product's release in September.

Again, apologies for the confusion.

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP28 Jul 2009 9:35 a.m. PST

After looking through the image gallery at Boardgamegeek, I'm not all that impressed. They were wise to leave the commons unpainted— the paint jobs on the other minis are horrible, below even the D&D line standards.

I also find the sculpting and posing so-so. A few of the sculpts are indeed nice (the minotaur), and some are acceptable (the cyclops), but many looked stiff or unnatural. One Egyptian fig looked liked it was part of a music video for The Bangles. The female figures in particular looked pencil thin and were bent at odd angles; I was put in mind of Popeye's girlfriend Olive Oyl. Ick.

Of course, it may have been the fault of the photos. I'll wait and see.

Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP28 Jul 2009 11:26 a.m. PST

Small hard plastic ancient figures would be a good addition to the hobby. Old 25mm is not 1/72 or 1/76 but if the whole collection were of these figs, then scale compatibility does not matter. I can see using them for Hordes of the Thing, mounted on 15mm scale bases if really 1/72. Leave out part about "mystical energies have been unleashed" and you would have good figs for ancients games, in general.

There are many links cited above, is there one directly to pics of the actual figures?

Parzival, how do you know the "commmons" are not painted. Buying painted figures is a plus.

joedog28 Jul 2009 3:27 p.m. PST

I was asked to put together the demo set at my FLGS, and they are decidedly NOT "hard plastic". The minis are bendy and difficult to work with.
They measure 25mm to the top of the head, and are smaller than most of my other "25mm" figures (like MegaMinis villagers – which tend to be 28mm to the top of the head). I'd say that 1/72 is probably accurate. I was thinking large 20mm until I measured them.

DS615129 Jul 2009 7:30 a.m. PST

I don't get why the rare guys are prepainted and the others are not.
If the general troops aren't painted then we will paint them, and then you have to re-paint the rare guy so he matches anyway.

It's just odd is all.

joedog29 Jul 2009 10:43 a.m. PST

Yes, to a miniatures gamer it is bass-ackward, since heroes are not only more interesting to paint, but you want to lavish extra painting effort on them, while the rank and file troops get the "good enough" paint jobs, since painting the same pose over and over gets boring.
To someone coming from Risk or A&A, and who isn't going to paint their minis, prepainted heroes/cmd are going to stand out on the table. So it seems they are designed for people who won't paint their armies.
But if this were the case, why aren't the regular troops made of different colored plastic, to denote which army they are in?

This was such a cool concept that it is a shame that they made some poor decisions in implementation.

cooey2ph30 Jul 2009 2:35 a.m. PST

Joedog,

What's A&A? Thanks

arthur181530 Jul 2009 4:50 a.m. PST

Axis and Allies, is my guess.

cooey2ph30 Jul 2009 7:55 a.m. PST

Thanks!

hwarang30 Jul 2009 12:39 p.m. PST

maybe they will be less bendy in the final product? (there was something about problems still to be solved)

i too find the choice of supplying only the most interszting characters painted rather strange.

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