"WW2 vehicles in use past the war?" Topic

Then there is Italian film by Giorgio Ferroni "The Battle of El Alamein (1969)". It used actual WWII Italian tanks in addition to the usual 1960's German Tank M-48 standins LOL. Robert

France used about 50 Panther tanks in the 503e Régiment de Chars de Combat until about 1950.

"After May of 1945, production of Hetzer (also abandomed and damaged vehicles were repaired) now designated ST(Stihac Tanku)-I continued at Skoda and Praga Works in Czechoslovakia until early 1960s. Along with ST-I, 50 unarmed training versions (some were fitted with superstructures) designated as ST-III/CVP were produced.
In 1949, modified hull of ST-I (with removed armament and opening enclosed) was mounted with modified PzKpfw 38(t) turret. The turret was armed with 7.92mm ZPB-A or 7.62mm DT-28 machine gun (left side) and German Flammenwerfer 41 flamethrower (right side). This flamethrowing tank was designated PM-I and prototype was completed in 1951. It was tested in 1953, but in 1955 Czechoslovak army was not interested in such vehicle anymore and PM-I was cancelled.
In 1950, CKD produced prototype of tractor/recovery vehicle based on ST-I, designated Praga VT-III.
Czechoslovakian Army was equipped with some 249 ST-1 in 1949 and used them until mid/late 1950s.
Hetzers were probably used after the war by Swedish until early 1960s. Swiss army purchased some 158 Hetzers by 1947 and retained them designated as G-13, until early 1970s. G-13 were armed with 75mm Stuk 40 gun as planned by German designers during the war. G-13s were a subject of various modifications which were made by Swiss Army in order to keep them up-to-date (eg. some were fitted with 6-cylinder, 150hp diesel engines and were designated G-13D). In addition, Swiss army ordered tractor/recovery vehicle based on G-13, designated by CKD as Praga DT-III.
Also, Israel was interested in purchasing 65 ST-Is, but because of their high price (twice higher than that of a Sherman) transaction was never completed.
Around 1947, Sweden purchased single Hetzer, probably from France, and used it for test purposes till early 1950s.
Jagdpanzer 38(t) Hetzer was cheap, fast, low and hard hitting and is considered to be one of the most successful tank destroyers of World War II. It was not popular with crews but proved to be a dangerous opponent on the defensive and is considered as one of the best German tank-hunters of the late war period. Hetzer's design is still considered to be a base for some modern tank destroyers, the most notably including Swedish Stridsvagn 103 (S-Tank)."

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"France used about 50 Panther tanks in the 503e Régiment de Chars de Combat until about 1950."

Yup. The Panther was used by the French Army's 503°RCC until 1947.

"After the war, many French Army tank units were equipped with Panthers (eg. 503rd Tank Battalion in Mourmelon had 50 Panthers in 1947 and 501rd Tank Battalion used Panthers from 1946 to 1950). Other post-war users included Bulgaria (Bulgarian Panthers), Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania and Yugoslavia.
After the war, modified Panther's 75mm KwK 42 L/70 gun was produced by French as 75mm DEFA and CN75-50 gun. "

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"After 1945, fifty Panther tanks were used by French 503e Régiment de Chars de Combat stationed in Mourmelon le Grand. Before the end of 1950, the Panther tanks had been replaced by French-built ARL 44 heavy tanks. The Panther influenced the design of the French AMX 50, which was never produced. After the war, a modified 75mm KwK 42 L/70 gun was produced by the French as the 75mm DEFA and CN75-50 gun. This gun equipped the AMX 13 light tank and EBR armored car. The Israelis used the gun to upgrade their M50 Super Sherman."

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"The CEFEO made use of several ex-Japanese tanks early in the War.

The main user of these was an ad-hoc formation (apparently the reforming Détachment Motorisée du Cambodge?) in Cambodia, which used Renault UE tractors with machine-guns mounted, plus a mixture of Japanese Type 89B mediums, Type 95 lights and Type 94 tankettes. There were at least 9 Japanese tanks in service on 15th February 1946. "

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"Hotchkiss H-39 Light Tank
These tanks of the Blitzkrieg Era of WW2 had probably seen service with the French Army in 1940, then the Wehrmacht, and were then returned to French use again. The first arrived in May 1947 to equip the REC (Foreign Legion Cavalry Regiment), with 20 more in April 1948."

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LOL. Looking at what some considered as "Obsolete" really depended on who they were used against. :). Robert

This site has a pic of at least four Sherman Fireflies, one turretless Sherman and two Charioteers in a Lebanese junkyard in 1991.

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T34 (85) it seems was used in almost every war in asia since wwii.

In Vietnam, the VNAF had M24s for base defense in 72. There was one outside my hooch area then. Also the US stopped producing M-3 halftracks in 1944. Just the M-16 version was used in Korea. In the US Arsenal, one of the longest serving items was the C-47 transport/Intel gatherer/Gunship/Cargo carrier airplane.
Natokina.

I've seen Chaffee's still in use in Brazil and in the 1980's El Salvador, I saw the effect of a grenade launcher on a M5 Stuart. That was a crying shame since I really like Stuarts.

Argentina

"In 1979 120 Sherman VCs and Sherman Hybrid ICs were converted. With the gradual entrance into service of the TAM in the early 1990s, they were passed to the operational depots where they were reconditioned and put in storage, to be used in the event of strategic or military necessity. "

And

" Six M7 105 mm HMCs arrived in 1950. Years later they were taken out of service until 1981, when they were modernised for return to active duty."

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"Just the M-16 version was used in Korea."

The M15A1 CGMC also served in Korea. Robert

"I've seen Chaffee's still in use in Brazil…"

I very much doubt it, they never entered service in Brazil. You might have seen an M-41 or you might have seen photos of the M-24 in service in Uruguay.

Yugoslavia

"During the 1950s Yugoslavia was supplied with both WW2 surplus and new military equipment from the United States for use by the Yugoslav armed forces.
Of the 3,000 US trucks provided between 1952 and 1958 the majority were GMC CCKW-352 and -353 trucks (these were later fitted with local bodywork). Armour included examples of the M8 Greyhound Armoured Car, M3 Half-Track, White M3A1 Scout Car, M3A3/M3A5 Stuart Light Tank, M18 Hellcat 76 mm and M36-series 'Jackson' 90 mm Gun Motor Carriages and the M7/M7B2 Priest 105 mm Howitzer Motor Carriage. Furthermore, 630 Sherman M4-series (including M32, M32B1 and M74 Tank Recovery Vehicles) and 300 M47 Patton Medium Tanks were supplied. Other vehicles included IHC M5 13-ton and M4 18-ton High-Speed Tractors, and Pacific M26 armoured tank transporters.
In due course it was superseded by Soviet and indigenous material. Although it was thought that by the late 1980s the WW- II era equipment had been taken out of service, many of them could be seen on television and in newspapers when the Yugoslav conflict raged in the early 1990s."
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Did anyone mention the postwar version of the SdKfz 251?

I once saw a picture of an ex-British Mark IV tank that had been knocked out in Berlin in 1945.

It is also interesting to note which WWII vehicles did NOT see any service after the war.
It seems that the T34/76 was never used again after 1945.

"It seems that the T34/76 was never used again after 1945."

I've seen pictures of T34/76 bein used in post-war training exercises – you can tell because the infantry are carrying AK-47s. I assume these were reserve and/or training units.

I also vividly recall seeing a 10-tank company ot T34/76 in the parade honoring the 40th anniversary of VE day. Parade markings and all, with the company CO grinning like the cat who are the canary.

"Then there is Italian film by Giorgio Ferroni "The Battle of El Alamein (1969)". It used actual WWII Italian tanks in addition to the usual 1960's German Tank M-48 standins LOL."

Yep, actual Italian tanks – one of each. The scene where the Ariete counter-attacks the British tank phalanx (M-47s!) shows what appear to be every running WW2-era tank the Italians had – one CV33, one M13/40, one Semovente 75, all in one shot. But at least they tried!

"Did anyone mention the postwar version of the SdKfz 251?

I once saw a picture of an ex-British Mark IV tank that had been knocked out in Berlin in 1945."

Yes it was. The Czech OT-810 was mentioned. As to the Mark IV tank you might be interested in a thread that I created on another site totally devoted to the use of WWI era tanks in WWII. Robert

WWI Tanks in WWII
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The Irish Army used Churchill VI tanks until 1969.
They even stuck a Rolls Royce Merlin engine from a Seafire in one when its motor gave out.

Yup. I mentioned them on Page 1 :). Robert

Another way that WWII vehicles have survived so long is thier being used for other purposes then wht they were designed for. The Israelis are a good example of that.The Sherman chassis and the ingenuity that they have used has prolonged it's life far longer then some thought it would be. Robert

Interesting Cuba information. Shermans,T-34/85s and SU100s

With Cuba's signature of the Rio Treaty of 1947, the Cuban Army's armoured strength was further augmented with the receipt of seven M4 Sherman medium tanks from the United States in February 1957. The Batista regime in Cuba used Shermans against Castro's rebels, and these remained in service after Castro's take-over. At least one Castro Sherman fought against the M41s landed during the abortive Bay of Pigs invasion.

The battle for Santa Clara
In December 1958, Che Guevarra fought in the city of Santa Clara, where a Sherman Company was present in the Regimiento No.3 "Leoncio Vidal". This was the most important battle of the revolution, because when President Batista saw that the troops of Che took half of Santa Clara, he abandoned Cuba in the morning of January 1 of 1959, and the revolution became victorious. Although the Regiment No.3 was very strong (2000 men), they lost their morale when they heard about Batista's escape so they surrendered on the same day and were taken prisoner by Che. This moment is shown in the pictures below.

After the revolution
The captured Shermans were used for training only in 1959-1960. All of Batista's tankers were out of the army by 1959. In 1960 Cuba started to receive large quantities of tanks from the USSR and Czechoslovakia (more than 100 in December 1960) and tank crews were trained in those countries. During the Bay of Pigs invasion Castro fought with dozens of T-34, SU-100 and IS-2.

In January/February 1959, Fidel Castro reportedly trained himself firing a Sherman in Managua, a military camp near Havana. Castro personally fired and competed with Lopez Cuba (see below) in firing the gun at palm trees near the camp. He said: "Well, we're empty, but we can't shoot anymore at the palm trees because they are national tree, and it is prohibited by the laws and the Constitution of Cuba ".
Later, during the Bay of Pigs invasion, Castro also fired a tank gun, this time a T-34 and a SU-100, to a ship of the invaders in the bay.

One of the best known Cuban "tanker" Generals, the Division General Néstor López Cuba, began his career as a tanker in a Sherman by orders of Castro in january 1959. He later trained other crews in the Sherman, and the 25 best trained Sherman crews manned the T-34/85 and the SU-100 in 1960. Lopez Cuba fought in Syria in 1973 against Israel and in 1976 in Angola against the South Africans.

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Norway

"The Norwegian Army was one of many post-war users of the M7 Priest 105-mm Howitzer Motor Carriage. It was the first (and for a long time the only) self-propelled gun in Norwegian service.

The first battery was established in May 1957 as battery Gamst at Haslemoen artillery camp (east of Hamar) with (four?) M7s. These were leftovers from a US artillery company and stored in 1945. This trials battery was an active unit during May 1957 – May 1958, and then went on mobilisation status. War exercises were held in 1960, 1963 and 1966. Two M5 Half-tracks were used as CP vehicles.

In 1960 twenty-two M7 Priests were overhauled in France and sent to Norway under the MAP. The M7s were transferred to Field Battery Battalion / Brigade North at Setermoen in county Troms (east of Tromso). It was planned to equip Battery N and P with eight M7s each, while six were to be held in reserve. Because the M7 was old and spares were a problem, only Battery N was operative with eight M7s during 1960-1969. The rest of the M7s were cannibalised for spares.
In April 1964 Brigade North's artillery battalion had the following units:
Battery N with eight M7 105-mm self-propelled howitzers
Battery P with eight M101 105-mm towed howitzers (M2A1)
Battery M with six M114 155-mm towed howitzers (M1)
So, during the mid and late 1960s, M7s still made up 36% of the active artillery battalion's strength – they were even the only self-propelled guns.
In 1969-1970 the M7 105-mm HMC was replaced by the M109G 155-mm SP Gun. But the 105-mm howitzers remain in service. They were used as fixed fortress artillery both in forts and single bunkers. These fortifications are still classified. Most of the hulls were scrapped and today only one M7 is known to survive."

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Netherlands

"After WW2, the Koninklijke Landmacht (Royal Netherlands Army, RNlA) acquired about 200-250 Sherman tanks and related AFVs from the Commonwealth vehicle dumps in the Netherlands. These stock included:

Sherman Hybrid I and Sherman Hybrid IC: 46 in 1951.
Sherman II: possibly some from the Commonwealth dumps, the majority came in through MDAP (see below).
Sherman III: numbers range from 16 in 1947 to 20 in 1951.
Sherman V and VC: numbers range from 70 in 1947 to 68 in 1951. The last 11 Sherman VCs in stock in 1956 were probably tank-pillboxes.
Sherman V Crab: a small number was used by the Royal Dutch Army. (Note: at least one Sherman V CIRD – though without the rollers – ended up in the Dutch Army inventory.)
Ram I and II : in 1947 44 "new" Rams were delivered. Four were Command/O.P. tanks, the rest were Ram IIs retrofitted with the British 75mm gun. Numbers ranged from 73 (incl. 2 Ram Is) in 1947 to 50 in 1951.
These war-weary AFVs were later replaced by freshly overhauled ones received through the MDAP. Several dozens of these worn-out Sherman and Ram tanks were then converted into tank-pillboxes as part of the defences for the IJssellinie. Fireflies retained their 17-pdr gun, but the 75mm Shermans and Rams had their gun removed and a 0.30" MG installed. Noteworthy is that not only the turrets, but also the tank hulls were used in the construction of these tank-pillboxes. Contrary to other pillboxes which use tank turrets, these pillboxes are not turrets on a concrete bunker, but actually turrets on stripped hulls set in concrete 30 to 60 cm thick.

From 1951 onwards various types of Shermans were received from the US through MDAP, about 250 in total:

M4A1: 38 received in 1952.
M4A1 Dozer: 30 of the M4A1s mentioned above were later fitted with dozer kits (although there were only 26 blades) and used by the Genie (engineers) and Technische Dienst (technical service) munitions companies. These were in use as late as January 1961.
M4A1E9: 50 received in 1951.
M4A1(76)W: 10 received in 1951.
M4A1(76)W HVSS: 40 received in 1951.
M4(105): 30.
M4A3E9(105) and M4A3(105) HVSS: 18 M4A3(105)s (both with spaced-out VVSS and HVSS) were received.
The MARBRIG (Marines Brigade) of the RNlMC used 18 M4A3(105) HVSS Shermans on East Java (Indonesia) during 1946-1949. Five of these were taken back to the Netherlands and transferred to the RNlA in 1954 or 1955.
In January 1961 45 howitzer-armed Shermans were still in use with the Cavalry's reconnaissance units.
M32 TRV: 4.
M32B1 TRV: 6.
M32B1E9 TRV: 10 (w/spaced out VVSS), these were registered as M31A1B1.

Sherman-related AFVs included:

Sexton 25 pdr SP Gun, Tracked: eleven in stock in 1947. In use from 1945 – 1953. Many if not most seem to have been equipped with US type tracks. (One photo shows a Sexton GPO in the background but this type was probably not used as such by the RNlA.)
M10 17pdr SP Gun: 42 were received from Canada through MDAP. Eighteen of these were never operational, these were used to keep the remaining 24 operational for a short time from 1945 (only seven were in stock in 1947).
Ram Kangaroo: several dozens (at least 25 and maybe up to 50) turretless Rams (Kangaroo, Wallaby, Gun Tower) were present at Kamp Stroe in the immediate post-war period. All the AFVs left in the Netherlands were collected at Kamp Stroe from where serviceable AFVs were taken up in the RNlA's inventory and damaged examples were scrapped. The Rams were never officially taken up in inventory but they were used at Stroe as tractors to tow disabled AFVs, a role for which they were very well liked."
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I just came across this and found this very interesting. Just in knowing what the history of the vehicle was.

AFRICAN QUEEN WAR / SERVICE HISTORY

WWII:

History of the African Queen's WWII service is under Research with assistance from the Military Preservation Organization G503. Due to a fire several years ago at the US Government records warehouse complex in St Louis, MO, WWII records were destroyed and unfortunately any official records of the African Queens WWII service history were lost. There may be an opportunity to search for duplicate records that are rumored to exist in the archives of the Library of Congress, Washington D.C.

KOREA:

The African Queen was one of 419 Half Tracks converted for service in Korea. She was converted by the Bowen McLaughlin Corporation in July 1952 from her original WWII M16A1 configuration to her current configuration as an M16A2. The conversion included installation of the updated M45F MAXON Turret with 6" extension ring, gunner's armor shield and Canoneer's platform, installation of a rear troop door and modified rear armor, installation of 2 additional rear wall storage boxes and an intercom system for the turret gunner. The African Queen was shipped to Korea saw service with 4th Platoon, Charlie Company (C-4), 25th AAA (Anti-Aircraft Artillery) AW (Automatic Weapons) Battalion, 24th Infantry Division (Indian Head) from 1952 to 1954.

INDO CHINA:

In 1954 the African Queen and three additional M16A2's were transferred to French Military Forces for service in Indo-China (Vietnam) where she served in various roles until 1958.

DJIBOUTI – HORN OF AFRICA:

In 1958 the African Queen was sent to Djibouti in the Horn of Africa for service with the French Foreign Legion. In 1962 the African Queen was driven or towed into the Djiboutian desert and abandoned by the French Foreign Legion as repair parts were not readily available and the African Queen had become obsolete.

AFRICAN QUEEN RECOVERY AND PRESERVATION

USA:

In November 2005 LTC Mark A.R. Koloc SR, US Army Reserve was assigned to the US Joint Task Force, Horn of Africa as the Director of Future Operations (J-35). In January 2006 while conducting a mission LTC Koloc came across the African Queen's resting spot in the Djiboutian desert. As a WWII history buff and a former Infantry / Armor Officer, LTC Koloc recognized the historical significance of the African Queen. After 9 months of negation and administrative challenges, legal possession of the African Queen was transferred to LTC Koloc in November 2006**. The African Queen arrived in Norfolk VA, via container ship in January 2007. After clearing customs the African Queen was shipped February 2007 by flat bed semi-truck to St. Paul, where she remained in storage. In April 2007 the African Queen was reunited with LTC Koloc when he returned from Africa and she was moved to her new home in River Falls, Wisconsin. After 45 years of abandonment and neglect the African Queen started and ran on the 4th of July 2007. "
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I love it when there is a history to a vehicle :).

"After nearly five years of painstaking effort, the Fort Snelling Military Museum Volunteers have finished restoring an M5A1 Stuart light tank to mint operating condition. This particular M5A1 tank was manufactured in 1943 in Racine, Wisconsin by the Massey Harris Company, and bears the serial number 9876. The Army registration number of this tank was 3059180. Based on casualty reports referencing similarly numbered tanks, it is believed that #9876 may have seen combat in support of the U.S. First Army in the ETO. While little of the vehicle's exact history is known at this time, a rebuild plate on the vehicle clearly establishes that this tank served in Italy in the postwar period."

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Some Matildas were still seving in the Australian Citizen Military Forces until 1955. Robert

Not vehicles, but some equipment:
.50 cal M2 heavy machine gun
P 38/ P 1 9mm handgun.
Colt 1911 .45 cal handgun
M1 to the M14 (from 30.06 to .308)

Ammo cartiridges have conitiued on in use. 7.62X 54
9mm, .45 cal, 30.06, are a few that come to mind.

"Some Matildas were still seving in the Australian Citizen Military Forces until 1955"

Grants served with the CMF into the 1960s and I think the last Staghounds were still doing service in the late sixties.

I saw a very battered….seen better days….German Opel Blitz drive through Amona? square in Athens in 1991. It was obviously still in use by a civilian company.

Matilda's and Universal Carriers were still in Australian Army service in the 1950's for sure. As a child I saw an exercise pass by a house in the country where I lived.

Hi Mal,

Postwar the Opel company continued to build many trucks to the 'Blitz' pattern so they weren't an uncommon sight on European roads well into the 1960s. 1991is getting on a bit though!

"I once saw a picture of an ex-British Mark IV tank that had been knocked out in Berlin in 1945."

That was a Photoshop exercise.

"That was a Photoshop exercise."

Hey tuscaloosa do you have anymore infomation about that? I have seen at least 3 different pics of it. Robert

In both Gulf Wars I saw T34/85s scooting by.

Do the Iowa class battleships count? The US keeps dragging them out of retirement. I half expect one to be modernized again. There were 2 in Gulf War 1.

Just saw the T-34/85s being used for German tanks and modified M3 halftracks as Sdkfz 251s again in "Force 10 from Navarone" again. The "German" tank crews were even wearing black Soviet tank crewman helemts. Robert

[on alleged Brit MK IV tank used in 1945]

"That was a Photoshop exercise."

"Hey tuscaloosa do you have anymore infomation about that? I have seen at least 3 different pics of it."

There was extensive discussion on a couple pictures on another site, I think Consimworld, dissecting the pix, and posters stepped forward with original shots sans Mk IV tank to make it pretty clear.

Thanks tuscaloosa. Ill have to see if I can find the discussion. Funny though IIRC the photos appeared before the advent of computers amd Photoshop. Robert

Photos have been faked for about as long as there have been photos, and I am pretty skeptical on that Mk IV in Berlin.

However, I could be wrong….

Yes they have been. Makes you wonder what was the purpose would be to have faked them LOL :). Robert

Back to the original subject LOL. According to the Osprey New Vanguard on the Crusader Cruiser 1939-1945 some Crusader gun tractors were sold to Argentina. A few of those were converted to SPGs using pre-war French 75mm and 105mm guns along with 3 Madsen machine guns. Robert

Postwar the Opel company continued to build many trucks to the 'Blitz' pattern so they weren't an uncommon sight on European roads well into the 1960s. 1991is getting on a bit though!

It was sufficiently rusty enough to show it had probably been a pre-war model!!!

along with 3 Madsen machine guns.

The Madsen would have to be one of the most widely used, but little credited machineguns of all time! Starting in the Russo Japanese war, right through WW1 and WW2 into the Vietnam War, that light machinegun soldiered on.

Some more on the use of DUWKs post war.

"The US Army reactivated and deployed several hundred DUKW's at the outbreak of the Korean War with the 1st Transportation Replacement Training Group providing crew training. DUKW's were used extensively to bring supplies ashore during the Battle of Pusan Perimeter and in the amphibious landings at Inchon.

Ex-US Army DUKW's were transferred to the French military after World War II and were used by the Troupes de marine and naval commandos. Many were used for general utility duties in overseas territories. France deployed DUKW's to French Indochina during the First Indochina War. Some French DUKW's were given new hulls in the 1970s with the last being retired in 1982.

Britain deployed DUKW's to Malaya during the Malayan Emergency of 1948-60. Many were redeployed to Borneo during the Indonesia-Malaysia confrontation of 1962-66. The Royal Marines still use a small number of these vehicles for training purposes in Scotland.

The Australian Army loaned two DUKW's and crew to Australian National Antarctic Research Expeditions in 1948 for an expedition to Macquarie Island. Australian DUKW's were used on Antarctic supply voyages until 1970. From 1945 to 1965, the Commonwealth Lighthouse Service supply ship Cape York carried ex-Army DUKW's for supplying lighthouses on remote islands.

Whenever a natural disaster or an emergency situation occurs, DUKW's are well equipped for the land and water rescue efforts. Australian Army Reserve DUKW's were used extensively for rescue and transport during the 1955 Hunter Valley floods.

One of the last DUKW's manufactured in 1945 was loaned to a fire department during the Great Flood of 1993 and in 2005, Duck Riders of Grapevine, TX deployed the vehicle to help in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. The DUKW was well equipped to maneuver its way through flood waters, transporting victims stranded on their rooftops to helicopter pads set up throughout New Orleans.

DUKW's are still in use primarily as tourist transport in US harbor and river cities, including but not limited to: Seattle; Philadelphia; Pittsburgh; San Francisco; Chattanooga; Nashville; Boston; Lahaina, Hawaii; Branson, Missouri; Grapevine, Texas; Saugatuck, Michigan; Washington, D.C.; Stone Mountain Park, Atlanta, Georgia; and Wisconsin Dells, Wisconsin. DUKW's can also be seen in London; Liverpool; Dublin, Ireland; Rotorua, New Zealand; The Netherlands; and Singapore."
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I would assume that quite a few of the vehicles used post war as the years went by would have had to have thier armament updated to be able to keep them in service too. Though some weapons on them like the M2 Browning, in regards to US vehicles,has been serving on them and others for decades. Robert

Algeria

Russian T34/85
Sources indicate that "some" were available in the 1990's.

Russian ISU122
40 were known to have been in inventory in 1983.

Russian SU100
70 were known to have been in inventory in 1981.

Russian SU85
5 were known to have been in inventory in 1987.

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Robert