
"EUREKA's 28mm FRENCH (will they do for 1806?)" Topic
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| trailape | 12 Jul 2009 2:38 a.m. PST |
Hi All Can anyone tell me if the EUREKA MINIATURS 28mm Revolutionary French will pass for French of the 1806 campaign? Cheers |
| colbert | 12 Jul 2009 2:59 a.m. PST |
French fusiliers in chapeau & Grenadiers in fur bonnet,would be suitable for the 1806 campagne. (100WFR 02-51) Regards, |
| trailape | 12 Jul 2009 3:04 a.m. PST |
chapeau? Is that the leather helmet (with the comb), or is that the Bicorn? Cheers |
| CATenWolde | 12 Jul 2009 3:13 a.m. PST |
Bicorn – the helmet had passed out of use long before then. |
| colbert | 12 Jul 2009 3:21 a.m. PST |
Chapeau = hat/bicorne. The leather casque was not in use in 1806.(so these figures wouldn`t be suitable) Regards, |
| Berlichtingen | 12 Jul 2009 8:49 a.m. PST |
Are you thinking of using only Eureka figures or mixing with other figures? I ask, because you will run into problems with legere and cavalry |
Der Alte Fritz  | 12 Jul 2009 9:46 a.m. PST |
I bought a 72 figure unit of French in bicorns at last year's Historicon and plan to use them in my 1:10 1806 project for the French. They are nice figures and easy to paint. I'm tempted to make up a unit in Tarletons and say "what the heck" and use them anyway, because they look so nice. |
| Garde de Paris | 12 Jul 2009 11:55 a.m. PST |
Hello, Fritz: The French you bought in tricorns are by what maker? Eureka? Do you have any pictures? May I assume that the 1806 French line battalion had nine companies? 1 Grenadier; 1 Voltigeur; and 7 Fusilier? How many figures do you use in 1:72? I like 1:36, so would be half your number. I have Stadden white-uniformed 33me de ligne, conversions of the Old Guard, wearing shakos. I did 4 grenadiers; 6 voltigeurs; and 4 men per company x 7 = 28 figures. I think they should more correctly be 5 men per fuslier company, but that would be too big with my later 36-man units of six companies. I plan to go up through Waterloo with cornets in King's Livery, and in the Green Napoleonic livery. I am tempted to buy the tarleton helmeted figure to do a French line battalion to continure the "anthology" of the French army, pushing back to before the universal use of the bicorn. I believe they would be one grenadier company (with bearskin?) and 8 fusiliers. Help! GdeP |
| Garde de Paris | 12 Jul 2009 12:23 p.m. PST |
I just read my last post – "senior moments!" Your 72-figure unit is 1:10, so 36-figure units would be 1:20. How is your 72-figure unit organized? GdeP |
| colbert | 12 Jul 2009 1:52 p.m. PST |
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| Garde de Paris | 12 Jul 2009 2:22 p.m. PST |
Thanks, Colbert, for the link! Fascinating selection. GdeP |
John the OFM  | 12 Jul 2009 6:07 p.m. PST |
I'm tempted to make up a unit in Tarletons and say "what the heck" and use them anyway, because they look so nice.
Another hard core historical gamer! I am looking at them to add to my Irish '98 forces, just so I can come in when it's too late to matter, or abandon them at the point of victory. Both work for me. |
Der Alte Fritz  | 13 Jul 2009 7:57 a.m. PST |
Garde de Paris: at 1:10 I have 72 figures organized onto 6 movement trays (3 ranks by 4 files = 12 figures) representing a company. This is the 1808 organization. Through 1807, the French would largely be organized into 9 companies: 1 grenadier and 8 fusilier companies up to about 1804 and thereafter, with the new addition of voltigeur companies, they would have 1 grenadier, 1 voltigeur and 7 fusilier companies. Now 12 x 9 = 108 figures is even a bit much for old Fritzy, so if I used the 9 company format, I would probably go with 9 figure companies (3 x 3 per stand) or a total of 81 figures. If you go with 9 companies, I believe that you could also organize them into 4 movement trays of 18 figures, with each movement tray representing a Grand Division of two companies. Then you could tack on the voltigeur company to this lot. So an "attack column" would be 2 grand divisions wide by 2 grand divisions deep, with your skirmishers out in front or at the rear of the attack column. We have just started work on a BAR variation for Napoleonic warfare and until we get the mechanics worked out, I will probably stick with the 6 movement trays. Later, I will add the extra 9 figures per battalion and then rearrange the movement trays accordingly. |
Der Alte Fritz  | 13 Jul 2009 8:01 a.m. PST |
As a result of this thread, I primed the first 15 figures of my Eurkea French in bicorns over the weekend and got the first sample figure painted. I really like the way he turned out and so I am motivated to do the other 71 figures soon. One thing that I like about the Eureka figures over the Elite figures that I am also using: less equipment on the Eurekas so they paint much faster. Also, the castings are smoother (fewer folds in the cloth compared to Elite) so the brush glides over the figure much easier. I like the Elite figures, but some of them are a chore to paint, whereas I did not have that feeling with the Eurekas. |
| Garde de Paris | 13 Jul 2009 11:39 a.m. PST |
I like these ideas! I looked into Osprey, and saw the Legion des Allobroges, 1792, light infantry in Tarleton helmet, dark green habit, vest and breeches, black crossbelts, and scarlet edging here and there. Very non-French! Do 6 "Carabiniers", 6 voltigeurs (mythical) and 24 center company men, circa 1808, for a great fantasy unit attached to the French army! The same for the line, but in white uniforms faced aurore, violette, cramoisi, or some other exotic color for yet anoter fantasy unit. Would a Jena era French infantry battalion at a "worn" 1:20 be 4 Grenadiers; 7 fusiliers companies of 5 men each, and six voltigeurs = 45 figures, representing 900 "actuals?" In the 1970's, I did the Garde de Paris in green; a battalion of the 15th line in white faced black; and one of the 33rd with violette, but used four figures for grenadier and fusilier companies, and six for voltigeurs – 38 in total. I have enough figures to do the 3rd Swiss in a similar organization, but am not sure how many fusilier companies they had. Did the Swiss have 8 or 10 company battalions? GdeP |
| vonLoudon | 17 Sep 2009 4:42 a.m. PST |
Oh yeah, well I like 1:30 and casque hats till 1809. So there. |
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