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allthekingsmen07 Jul 2009 7:34 p.m. PST

All the King's Men Toy Soldiers is pleased to announce our new line of 54mm metal figures for the War of 1812 in America. A full news story will appear soon. But in the meantime, here's our web page for a sneak peak:

link

pavelft07 Jul 2009 11:42 p.m. PST

Looking really sweet! Will you be creating modified rules to cover 1812?

allthekingsmen08 Jul 2009 4:56 a.m. PST

Thanks, Forest! The army sets include a couple scenarios to fight (Chippawa and Lundy's Lane), along with modified charts for army composition and determining unit quality based on the trends of 1812. Otherwise, the rules play as you're familiar. If you haven't seen it, feel free to check out our optional rules page, where we try out new stuff:

link

They cover things like general vulnerability and large (multi-player) game rules, the latter of which have been sweet at cons.

blucher08 Jul 2009 6:15 a.m. PST

Have looked at these a few times but never been too sure…

Really like the F&I war stuff!

UpperCanada08 Jul 2009 9:15 a.m. PST

Very nice offering off the bat!

A new temptation.

allthekingsmen08 Jul 2009 9:54 a.m. PST

That's definitely an auspicious handle, Upper Canada. Nice one! Glad you like the looks of our new figures. You'll see from the link that one of the first sample units painted was Upper Canada militia in green and red. (I have always been drawn to early war uniforms.)

Let me know what you're unsure about, Blucher. Maybe I can help.

ArchiducCharles08 Jul 2009 10:53 a.m. PST

I'm not usually a 54mm fan, but I must say these look really nice.

UpperCanada08 Jul 2009 11:18 a.m. PST

ATKM…

have to ask though…

why right shoulder arms? The figures are great, and the heads a smart way to go to allow greatest flexibility.

But I would have thought LEFT for shoulder arms, right for carry arms.

(and I did enjoy the painting of UC militia on your product page!)

allthekingsmen08 Jul 2009 11:21 a.m. PST

"But I would have thought LEFT for shoulder arms, right for carry arms."

I confess, that's a detail that escaped us. Hopefully it doesn't diminish your enjoyment of the figures, though.

WarWizard09 Jul 2009 5:51 a.m. PST

I think they look very good. Also a good period that is too often neglected. Good choice.

The Lost Soul10 Jul 2009 4:44 a.m. PST

Like Ken (ATKM), I also like the early war uniforms. It's just that the early war battles are so depressing from an American standpoint. In the East, except for Queenston in 1812 (until the very end), and York in 1813, battle after battle was a humiliating defeat. Things did not even up until 1814, by which time American uniforms were much plainer and uninteresting. Oh well. Doesn't mean I'm not going to take the plunge!

allthekingsmen10 Jul 2009 6:24 a.m. PST

I couldn't agree more, Chris! The irony is that one of the most discouraging battles for me is Queenston Heights for the death of Brock. Oh, how the war might have been different had he lived to continue leading. Arguably, he might have been hamstrung by Prevost in Quebec, but I suspect he would have continued to find insidious ways to be aggressive and proactive, as at Detroit.

45thdiv10 Jul 2009 8:11 a.m. PST

Hi Ken,

I like the new set. I was wondering if the large white tree in the boxed set will be available separately in your terrain section?

Looks like Chris and I will have another period to play.

Matthew

The Lost Soul15 Jul 2009 5:43 a.m. PST

Yeah, Brock's survival is a fascinating what-if. He probably would have continued to be an effective leader for the godless Brits and their Canadian stooges [;)], but the emergence of Scott, Brown, Harrison, and other effective American leaders in place of relics like Hull would have made a big difference in his relative effectiveness, I think.

Brock vs. Scott in an open-field battle--two leaders who would have done honor to any Napoleonic battlefield in Europe--now there's a match up worth contemplating.

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