| Lovejoy | 02 Jul 2009 10:31 a.m. PST |
I'm starting to sculpt an early Sassanid Persian army in 28mm – and I've immediately run into a problem. Poses. I can't decide how to pose the horses. Standing, walking, trot, canter, gallop? And what about Generals? Posed to fit in a unit, or a stand-alone, dramatic, maybe rearing type-pose? So, once again, rather than make a decision, I'm asking my fellow TMPers to give their opinions. I'm confident this will lead swiftly to a unanimous conclusion. :) |
aecurtis  | 02 Jul 2009 10:35 a.m. PST |
I'd like to see clibanarii firing their bows forward, which would call for fairly static horse poses. Lighter types in skirmishing poses could be on more active mounts. I'd prefer a fairly sedate general as well: one that could be incorporated into a unit. But a separate vignette is OK. And you are optimistic, sir! Allen |
| nycjadie | 02 Jul 2009 10:53 a.m. PST |
Agree with Allen. However, as long as all the cavalry are consistent in pose, I think that's fine. |
| idontbelieveit | 02 Jul 2009 11:19 a.m. PST |
I prefer to see troops standing at the ready – "menacing" is the term a friend puts to it. They seem to be easier to base and use. Galloping is the worst and having a mix is almost as bad. Good luck on the Sassanids. I just finished painting an FoG sized army using the A&A Sassanids and they set a quality standard that will be hard to beat. |
| quidveritas | 02 Jul 2009 11:48 a.m. PST |
Depends on the riders. Generally (but not always) a more compact pose is better for any number of reasons. mjc |
| Lentulus | 02 Jul 2009 11:52 a.m. PST |
Standing and walking are both easy to use. I don't mind the choice of others – a unit on knights charging with couched lances is quite neat – but I do not like having them thrust on me. |
| Jamesonsafari | 02 Jul 2009 12:15 p.m. PST |
Walking or standing w/ lances upright is easiest to accommodate on bases etc. Also look best with fewer variations between sculpts. Charging is cool, but hard to base and charging troops always look stupid being held in reserve. Charging troops also look stupid if every figure is the same. |
| Plynkes | 02 Jul 2009 12:17 p.m. PST |
This one: picture I really cannot understand why so few manufacturers provide it. Give the people what they want. |
| Mick in Switzerland | 02 Jul 2009 12:41 p.m. PST |
Trotting with three legs on the ground works well and is also strong. Perry plastic cavalry are a good example of good poses. See Poll 3 and Poll 4
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Mick |
| Dave Gamer | 02 Jul 2009 12:47 p.m. PST |
Galloping is the best, with riders leaning forward, ready to cut someone down. |
| religon | 02 Jul 2009 1:05 p.m. PST |
@Plynkes, Surely you don't play GW LOTR games. This is the default pose of the Rohhirim cavalry horses after the frail single plastic leg attaching it to the 40mm base breaks and in is reinforced with a pin. :) |
| Lovejoy | 02 Jul 2009 1:05 p.m. PST |
Thanks for the replies, everyone! A surprisingly amount of agreement too. Apart from Dave, obviously :) idontbelieveit, I'd never seen the A+A figures before – they do look pretty nice; whether I can do better or not, I don't know. I'm not set on Sassanids 100%, but I love cataphracts and I do want to sculpt mostly horses, so Sassanids seem the obvious choice… Unless anyone can suggest something else? |
 BigRedBat  | 02 Jul 2009 1:53 p.m. PST |
Parthians or Armenians. There's not enough of them… |
| TKindred | 02 Jul 2009 1:54 p.m. PST |
I, too, prefer standing horses with lances upright, or at rest over a shoulder, or a trotting pose. respects, |
| idontbelieveit | 02 Jul 2009 2:18 p.m. PST |
If you want to do cataphracts you are in the right period.
If you want to do mostly mounted, would you be open to a suggestion of early byzantines (the army of belisarius) and his sassanid opponents (6th century, no cataphracts I'm afraid) or his vandal opponents? |
| DalyDR | 02 Jul 2009 3:48 p.m. PST |
To echo Allen's comment, forward-shooting clibanarii would be great. The ones I have in shooting poses are all aiming at the neck of the chum on their left…
Dave
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| Steve Hazuka | 02 Jul 2009 5:36 p.m. PST |
I like the horse at a trot, lance/spear 45 degree forward. Easy to mount and store. One detail, what game are you designing them for? Make sure the horse or base fits onto a stand. Some Old Glory horses (15mm) are so stretched out it's tough to mount. Then if you have to place another stand behind it the noses and tails clash. |
| Aloysius the Gaul | 02 Jul 2009 9:37 p.m. PST |
Trotting with three legs on the ground works well and is also strong I'm pretty sure that Trotting is, by definition, having 2 legs at diagonally opposite corners of the horse on the ground at once then swapping them for the other 2 legs – in between the 2 strides the horse has no legs on the ground – albeit for a fraction of a second. 3 legs on the ground could be a walk, canter or a gallop – anything EXCEPT a trot! :) |
| alessandro | 03 Jul 2009 1:44 a.m. PST |
trotting is the best because allow the gretest number of rider's poses |
