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dragonfan7901 Jul 2009 4:20 p.m. PST

Hi, a simple question I'm sure but what colour do people use to lighten red for highlighting etc? I know adding white simply turns it pink.

cheers

captain canada01 Jul 2009 4:29 p.m. PST

yellow. It works real well

Brandlin01 Jul 2009 4:31 p.m. PST

dpends on the type of red it is… i've used white, yellow, and light blue. The trick is you need very very little of the additional colour otherwise you end up with something that looks pink/orange/purple with red shadows.

Top Gun Ace01 Jul 2009 4:47 p.m. PST

Or, just start off with a darker red, and use brighter reds for highlighting.

Last Hussar01 Jul 2009 4:56 p.m. PST

I was trying to match a 'terracotta' in some figures I'd bought (Red dye fades to terracotta/orange*, so there was precedence). At first I thought they were orange, but 'orange' soon showed that to be wrong, so ended up with your problem.

The answer to your question is – Yellow/red can be orangy, so ended up with a little light brown as well.


*Many years ago when I re-enacted one member was Central Casting 'Oirish'- always about how wonderful ireland was, and how Brits were bastards type of thing (and despite this he lived in London). One day he is showing his new wool cloak- a lovely rich deep red. I turned and said "When that's been washed a couple of times it will go a lovely shade of orange", and sauntered away. I don't know what was best- the look on his face, the look of 'do you know what you've just said'** on his girlfreind's face, or the barely suppressed smirks on the faces of a couple of senior members (including his own unit leader, and mine) who knew I knew exactly what I said, and recognised a well aimed low blow when they saw one.

**You may need to become aquainted with the history of 'the troubles' if you don't see what I'd done.

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP01 Jul 2009 5:08 p.m. PST

I typically use a sand/khaki/bone color. It lightens the red and has enough yellow to keep it from turning orange.

But mostly I use a deep maroon then highlight with regular red.

Personal logo mmitchell Sponsoring Member of TMP01 Jul 2009 5:13 p.m. PST

Like Mark, I use maroon and then add red on top.

dragonfan7901 Jul 2009 5:23 p.m. PST

Thanks guys. My question was raised by the current shot of the Gorgon Studios miniatures Spartans on the TMP. I have some Romans and Greeks to do and wanted someof that kind of effect. Sounds like a bit of experimenting with yellow and bone type colours will work as well as trying some different shades of maroon/red.
I wont ask about washes!! ( or maybe I should?!) I use Citadel sepia and black washes a lot but not sure what wash might work best on red?

Cheers

Pictors Studio01 Jul 2009 5:28 p.m. PST

I have several different reds as other have mentioned above.

Often a chestnut wash over red will work pretty well.

Mark Plant01 Jul 2009 5:52 p.m. PST

Yellow Ochre, generally.

Personal logo McKinstry Supporting Member of TMP Fezian01 Jul 2009 8:52 p.m. PST

I find Vallejo light sand has just enough yellow to lighten without turning orange.

CPBelt01 Jul 2009 8:59 p.m. PST

ordinarygaming.blogspot.com

I list a number of red triads using craft paints. Many are near copies of Reaper and Foundry. Others are what I like using. You can find the link on my blog.

CeruLucifus01 Jul 2009 9:37 p.m. PST

Last Hussar: it will go a lovely shade of orange" …

**You may need to become aquainted with the history of 'the troubles' …

Anybody have a history link that explains this for this ignorant American? I googled "Irish troubles" with "orange", "color", and "red" but didn't find a fit. I did find the references to William of Orange but that was the 17th century, not recent enough -- or is that it because Last Hussar and his "Oirish" friend were re-enactors? I guess he didn't say which era.

Keeping it on topic, what would be the best orange to paint supporters of William of Orange at the end of the 1600s? Could dye of that era produce a brilliant orange like a pumpkin or do would it be more of dull shade?

Plynkes02 Jul 2009 1:27 a.m. PST

While the rest of the world, and indeed most Brits (apart from some boisterous Scottish football fans), have largely forgotten him, the memory of King Billy is kept alive in Ulster, Donrice. Folks have long memories in that part of the world:

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VonStengel02 Jul 2009 1:39 a.m. PST

"The futures bright, the futures orange" That advertising jingle went down really well! 8-)

GildasFacit Sponsoring Member of TMP02 Jul 2009 3:00 a.m. PST

Not a highlight technique but it works.

Dry-brush the highlight areas with white BEFORE painting. These areas then retain the brightness and the rest contrasts with them.

Last Hussar02 Jul 2009 4:49 p.m. PST

Every year there is conflict as protestant bands want to march to commemorate the Battle of the Boyne, often through catholic areas. I wonder why no one has told them that the pope supported William of Orange against the Jacobites?

Seriously Don, having the wrong Christian (ha!) name can get you thumped in parts of Belfast.

On topic- Gildas- that is a great idea.

Rob UK02 Jul 2009 5:52 p.m. PST

Cotes D'arms Burnt Orange….or maybe add a little tone to the red

hussarbob1746.webs.com

ThorLongus18 Aug 2009 7:39 a.m. PST

nothing at all!!- do it backwards

prime black…drybrush with dark grey, then lighter grey, then white…each drybrush getting lighter.
then paint area with a nice red lightfast ink such as FW
acrylic artists ink (opaque ink or transparent -to taste)your highlights and shades appear as magic as long as you do a good gradual under drybrushing first…and let your dry brushing levels dry thoroughly

similar to Gildasfacit

Farstar18 Aug 2009 2:44 p.m. PST

"Anybody have a history link that explains this for this ignorant American?"

What, really?

As "Central Casting Oirish" the fellow would be Irish Catholic, or "green".

The colors of the Northern Irish Protestants, especially in their more militant incarnations, is orange.

Until very recently, the Orange and the Green did not get along at all well, due to both religious and political reasons.

The closest one can get to Ireland and view the subject with humor is, empirically, California, which was the home of the ironically named Irish Rovers when they penned the song "The Orange and the Green" about a lad whose parents were one of each.

The situation has been much worse than it is at the moment, and has led to a great deal of the color this topic started on: red.

Steve W18 Aug 2009 5:01 p.m. PST

"The futures bright, the futures orange" That advertising jingle went down really well! 8-)


And banned every July in Northern Ireland!

If you want to see humour about Northern Ireland there was a great comedy series called "Give my head Peace" which was very funny

Rich Knapton23 Aug 2009 11:08 a.m. PST

I simply dry brush a little orange. Ya, I'm simple that way.

Rich

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