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andygamer30 Jun 2009 7:17 p.m. PST

The coat of William Jarvis that, unfortunately, isn't currently on display anywhere. (Along with some other items.)
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Mapleleaf30 Jun 2009 8:00 p.m. PST

Thank you for the great link. I wonder what else is in that storage room ? While Toronto needs a real military museum I think that a good place for the coat would be the current visitor's center at York York. At least people could see it.


Please note that the coat is probably from the "recreated" Queen's rangers unit that Simcoe raised when he was named as Lt. Gov of Upper Canada. I would like to know the date on the tailor's bill to be sure

mweaver30 Jun 2009 10:00 p.m. PST

Neat. Thanks for the link.

Supercilius Maximus01 Jul 2009 3:18 a.m. PST

As Mapleleaf says, this is a coat from a different "Queen's Rangers" from the one that fought in the AWI – this one was formed some time in the 1790s and was largely rifle-armed (unfortunately, this is why Lefferts' book on AWI uniforms has so many errors about the original Queen's Rangers).

andygamer01 Jul 2009 7:06 a.m. PST

Without googling for the various Queen's Rangers reenacting groups to see for myself, was there much of a difference between them especially for an officer's coat?

historygamer01 Jul 2009 9:25 a.m. PST

No standing collar, that was 1790ish, and the facings would have been smaller too. Hard to tell from that picture though.

The 1790s was a trasition period from teh Rev War look to the Napoleonic look, thus why they are not the same (1770s and 1790s, that is).

troopwo Supporting Member of TMP01 Jul 2009 2:30 p.m. PST

I always thought it particularly funny that the current QYR have copied the colours of a sun bleached tunic as a basis for their mess kit. The original colours have gone from rifle green and black, to a worn pool-table green and mauve.

Always good for a laugh when I ask their RSM to lay his mess jacket down and rack 'em up.

spontoon01 Jul 2009 2:32 p.m. PST

I like the reference to John Graves Simcoe using the " Cromwell Cannon' to defend Fort york in 1813. Must have been interesting, a ghost defending the place with a concemned cannon!

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