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Kirk Alderfer16 Jun 2009 11:31 a.m. PST

Hopefully over the next several months Myself and son Roderick will be getting some masters cast of
the Galactic ships. I have a ship going to IWM this week to get ran through the wringer to see if
how we are doing our sculpts will survive the mold master process long enough to make casting
masters. So on that hopefull note, I am splitting out a previous thread to separate the different
factions ships and ground units out.

First, we start with the United Worlds Protectorate. The UPW is loosely based on historical colonial
America with a flavoring of the Aliens universe. With that in mind, I had Roderick start some
ship sculpts in a Sulacoo-ish design.

First up is the Olympia Class Destroyer. Do not have all the specs ran out yet, but for all UPW
ships, the prime weapon mount is based on the UNSC Graser. Secondaries are based on the standard
scattergun and the missile system is re-configurable sub-munition missile.
Also, a modular approach was followed in the design style and except for the Escort Carrier and
Battleship, the flight decks are on the left-hand side

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Constellation Class Battle-Cruiser

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Constitution Class Heavy Battleship

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Province Class Escort Carrier

The Province is based on the Olympia, with the additional hanger deck added to the right side.
The design is also up-engined.

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Accord Class Transport
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Allegiance Class Tanker
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Emblem For the United Worlds Protectorate

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For the Ala-Skan Commonwealth I had started and started again with wedge-ish designs. Many years
ago they were backwards(big end forwards) casket shape designs. Then split wedges until that
went away. Trying to stay with the wedge layout but now with a ribbed armor look. With the latest
revamp, all I have of the AC line is the Audacious SuperDreadnaught. As I noted in the UPW thread,
I have a ship heading to IWM for mold testing to see how the build process we use will hold up to
vulcanization process…fingers crossed that I get a decent mold anyway. I should have the 3 other
designs done tonight or tomorrow and will get those posted.

Audacious Super-Dreadnaught

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Ala-Skan Commonwealth emblem

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Allen5717 Jun 2009 6:20 a.m. PST

I like the ships. Have you posted before about this game? I tried a search and found no earlier post from which this is an "update" as it says in your title.

TimHerr17 Jun 2009 12:45 p.m. PST

Some of those designs fall into the "very cool" column. I am curious though, what're the dishes on the bows of all the UWP ships?

Tim

Kirk Alderfer18 Jun 2009 10:06 a.m. PST

@ Allen57 – Sorry about that, I hadnt posted this before…here

@ TimHerr – Those are the primary weapon mounts. Based on the FT UNSC Grasers

……..Updates……..

Nippon Hegemony
My Japanese fleet ships have totally changed appearance from how I sketched these out years back. Got away from the pagoda look and went with the Wing/Homeworld mothership style. Just more angular. It also helped that these were left over builds from the original Ala-Skan ships.

Amaterasu Super Dreadnaught

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Ala-Skan Commonwealth WIP
Contention Class Heavy Fleet Cruiser

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Modular lower section.
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Exceed Class Strike Cruiser
Some pics of the 'Test' article that Im sending off to IWM.

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Kirk Alderfer29 Jun 2009 7:46 a.m. PST

Did some revamp pics of the original pieces and have some new masters tossed in…enjoy

Ala-Skan Commonwealth updates

Audacious Class SuperDreadnaught
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Contention Class Battle Cruiser
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Resolute Class Cutter
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Tempest Class Assault Transport
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United Worlds Protectorate

Constellation Class Battle Cruiser
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Constitution Class SuperDreadnaught
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Olympia Class Destroyer
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Province Class Escort Carrier
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Warhawk Class Fighter
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Kingdom of Israel

Shedim Assault Transport
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Katlanit Class Destroyer
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Masada Class Heavy Cruiser
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Leviathan Class SuperDreadnaught
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The Hargonne

Sogfid Class Cutter
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Sogna Class SuperDreadnaught WAY-WIP
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Unknown faction Capital Ship
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Covert Walrus01 Jul 2009 4:07 p.m. PST

Oh yes! Looking forward to seeing these cast up and available . . .

Kirk Alderfer14 Jul 2009 8:16 p.m. PST

The pre-production metals for the Exceed Strike Cruiser came this evening. I am quite happy with the end product…enjoy

Exceed Strike Cruiser with Aerotech Eagle Frigate for scale
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Exceeds in formation with Audacious Superdreadnaught prototype
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TheBeast Supporting Member of TMP16 Jul 2009 11:25 a.m. PST

Sorry to come to the thread late.

While I see different influences in several lines, don't you fear some of the Kingdom of Israel ships, particularly the Shedim and the Masada, being declared a bit too derivative of GZG's UN fleet?

Kirk Alderfer17 Jul 2009 12:09 p.m. PST

"While I see different influences in several lines, don't you fear some of the Kingdom of Israel ships, particularly the Shedim and the Masada, being declared a bit too derivative of GZG's UN fleet?"

Well I didnt clarify it here, but the Israeli ships shown are just kit-bashes of the GZG ships. I am just trying to capture the flavor of what they could look like, have stand-ins for them and trust me, when the original are done…there wont be any confusion or IP issues.

Kirk

TheBeast Supporting Member of TMP17 Jul 2009 6:53 p.m. PST

"Well I didnt clarify it here, but the Israeli ships shown are just kit-bashes of the GZG ships. "

No problemo; I'm easily confused… ;->=

TheDreadnought19 Jul 2009 6:53 p.m. PST

I like the ships. They're really pretty cool.

Not a big fan of the "means nothing" classifications "super-dreadnought" "heavy battleship" etc.

I tend to prefer designations that actually describe the ship -- destroyer, light cruiser, heavy cruiser, battlecruiser, battleship, carrier, with maybe a side of escort carrier thrown in.

Admittedly, the distinction between light and heavy cruisers is pretty much meaningless for space gaming unless you set up a similar weapon disparity between the two. Then of course there is the whole dreadnought/super-dreadnought vs. battleship fallacy so many space gamers get caught up in.

. . . anyway. Just one of my pet peeves about a lot of starship games. Nice ships though! :)

Kirk Alderfer20 Jul 2009 9:14 a.m. PST

You know, when it comes down to it, the variations dont really matter. A Battleship is just a Battleship, some are just bigger than others. In looking at the US Navy 1920's designation listing, it is pretty plain and simple…which I like. And I might just end up switching over to that.

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camelspider20 Jul 2009 9:42 a.m. PST

Is that a thumbtack on the front of some of the ships, like for instance the Constellation class?

Kirk Alderfer20 Jul 2009 10:20 a.m. PST

No, not a thumbtack. For the preliminary pieces Roderick used the comm dish from a Battletech mobile headquarters. The production piece will have a slightly different antenna hub and a 'ball' on the back.
For modeling purposes though, a thumbtack would work well

camelspider20 Jul 2009 12:46 p.m. PST

Would also discourage walkers-by from manhandling your models. grin

Kirk Alderfer23 Jul 2009 1:21 p.m. PST

Now the fun begins :)
Per the results of the test casting and talks with the mold makers, I am going to shoot for a 4 faction first release. These will have 3 capital ships and a interceptor or fighter for each. Will post updates as I go.

Kirk

Kirk Alderfer24 Jul 2009 1:32 p.m. PST

Had a good long talk with the mold maker and looks like things are a go. Per their suggestions all of my Ala-Skan ships will be reworked or redone. Mainly the depth of the detailing needs increase to survive the press of the molding process. Also contacted a friend who does decals to get something started with those. But the plan now is for the 4 faction release, The Ala-Skan Commonwealth, United Worlds Protectorate, The Hargonne and The Vindric.

The link is to the current list of total minis that are planned for each faction
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Kirk Alderfer10 Aug 2009 8:44 a.m. PST

Small update per the findings from the test casting. Basically a little redesign and beefing up.
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and Exceed redo picture

Kirk Alderfer31 Oct 2009 9:42 a.m. PST

Just as an update, we are getting away from kit-bashed hand sculpted models for our minis. Since I last posted, the Audacious Battleship and the Contention Battlecruiser has been CAD modeled and the good folks at Shapeways shapeways.com are prototyping the Audacious.
If this turns out viable masters then the plan would be as with the hand sculpts. Doing this puts us behind our original schedule, but we feel we can get hte flavor we are wanting with the designs.

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Kirk Alderfer03 Nov 2009 8:52 a.m. PST

Audacious
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Audacious with UWP Constitution Battleship and Olympia Cruiser
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And Olympia A Cruisers on patrol
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Kirk Alderfer04 Nov 2009 6:35 a.m. PST

Finished the Constitution Battleship…enjoy

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Kirk Alderfer17 Nov 2009 11:57 a.m. PST

Now some alien ships to balance the game. First, the Hargonnian Sogna Class Battleship picture

Kirk Alderfer18 Nov 2009 6:51 a.m. PST

A Vindric 'Destroyer'
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