| jony663 | 14 Jun 2009 12:57 p.m. PST |
Needing to paint up a batch of 3mm Fallschirmjager for 1940. Can I get some ideas what Vallejo paints I should use for tunic, pants and helmet? Thank you Jon |
GildasFacit  | 14 Jun 2009 3:08 p.m. PST |
I used Medium Olive for the smock and Bassalt Grey for the trousers and helmet. I may have mixed a bit of brown in to take the edge off the green, I can't remember. |
| GOTHIC LINE MINIATURES | 14 Jun 2009 3:18 p.m. PST |
Just an opinion : I have an uncle who owns a toy museum with tons of soldiers and I know the collectors market. Why do people choose those tiny scales?I understand if you are in the army and need big scale simulations! Bigger scales like 1/48 not 28mm and 1/32 are a better option because you end up with a collection you see?it is a better investment. In a convention at the military academy only 4 sad soldiers were having a game at a similar small scale-6mm and it was not very fun to play or to look at. All the best |
| advocate | 14 Jun 2009 3:25 p.m. PST |
Lusitanus: few people I know plan their hobby as an investment. I can think of several reasons for going with 3mm figures and larger figures just won't hack it. Personally, for WW2 I'd never consider going above 1/72, and that for very low-level skirmish. |
| GOTHIC LINE MINIATURES | 14 Jun 2009 3:48 p.m. PST |
1/72 is still a very small scale,I have tried it and games took too long and in the end there were always guys left hiding in the table somewhere! How many soldiers on each side will you have on a low level skirmish? It is good that there are all sorts of scales out there for many purpose games,the investment on bigger scales is just a way of thinking related to my own background and experience. |
| GOTHIC LINE MINIATURES | 14 Jun 2009 3:52 p.m. PST |
By the way I agree with the smock and helmet but shouldnt the trousers be closer to a blue shade? Either way the helmet should be in a lighter shade of gray than the trousers. |
| SFC Retired | 14 Jun 2009 4:24 p.m. PST |
"By the way I agree with the smock and helmet but shouldnt the trousers be closer to a blue shade?" Pretty sure that FJ's wore Field Grey trousers with there Blue Luftwaffe tunic and FJ Smock. I am about to start working on a 1940 (EW) FoW FJ company. SFC Rertired |
| Wargamer Blue | 14 Jun 2009 4:34 p.m. PST |
The Airforce blue trousers were still in use in 1940 for action in France, Poland, Norway, Belgium and the Netherlands. From Crete onwards you have 100% field grey trousers. Early war jump smocks were also more straight grey than the green grey Crete/Rest of War version. |
| GOTHIC LINE MINIATURES | 14 Jun 2009 4:42 p.m. PST |
I knew it! Many thanks rat of tobruk!see it pays to be accurate! So i was right all along! For 1940 trousers are BLUE! |
| GOTHIC LINE MINIATURES | 14 Jun 2009 4:44 p.m. PST |
Would you know when and where the Mauser Kurz smaller version of the rifle was used? |
| tuscaloosa | 14 Jun 2009 6:23 p.m. PST |
Kinda obvious trolling there, isn't it Lusitanus? |
| donlowry | 14 Jun 2009 9:12 p.m. PST |
With 3mm miniatures, I doubt if he is playing skirmishes. He's playing battles. |
| WKeyser | 14 Jun 2009 11:59 p.m. PST |
Funny I play lots of 6mm games and I am almost never sad!!!! William Lusitanus In a convention at the military academy only 4 sad soldiers were having a game at a similar small scale-6mm and it was not very fun to play or to look at. |
GildasFacit  | 15 Jun 2009 1:05 p.m. PST |
There seems to be some debate about the colour of the trousers in a number of sources but I believe the troops who actually fought were wearing grey trousers in action – whatever the colour of their trousers at other times. Although it is difficult to be sure from B&W photos, all those I have seen have darker trousers that would be the case if they were Luftwaffe blue. As to the comments on small scales – if you want small battles then play with big soldiers. Personally I can't see the point in using such large figures for wargaming, I like to see a decent sized force on the table and I haven't got a barn to play in. A German source I have (actually a cigarette card from just before the war) shows the smock to be be quite a bright green and the trousers a deep grey (admittedly with a bluish tint). The helmet should probably be lighter than the trousers but the convenience of using the same colour for both is acceptable IMHO at this scale. |
| GOTHIC LINE MINIATURES | 15 Jun 2009 1:52 p.m. PST |
tuscaloosa 14 Jun 2009 6:23 p.m. PST Kinda obvious trolling there, isn't it Lusitanus? Tuscaloosa:English is obviously not my first language what exactly do you mean? |
| GrotGnome | 15 Jun 2009 2:14 p.m. PST |
"The Airforce blue trousers were still in use in 1940 for action in France, Poland, Norway, Belgium and the Netherlands" They didn't wear the Luftwaffe blue standard uniform trousers for airborne operations, The fieldgrey trousers, designed specifically for the FJ before the war, had, amongst other design features, slits maunufactured in them to allow the wearing of the knee pads. |
| SFC Retired | 16 Jun 2009 5:52 a.m. PST |
"They didn't wear the Luftwaffe blue standard uniform trousers for airborne operations, The fieldgrey trousers, designed specifically for the FJ before the war, had, amongst other design features, slits maunufactured in them to allow the wearing of the knee pads." From the Osprey and other sources this is correct. The "old" Squadron books shows color illustrations of the FJs in blue jump trousers but this was proved wrong many years ago. Remember making a 1/35 diorama around 1980 with teh FJs in blue pants. SFC Retired (Currently making a 1940 EW FoW FJ Company) |
| jony663 | 18 Jun 2009 4:22 a.m. PST |
Thank you all for the assistance. The game will be up on at Historicon and I hope no one is sad. It is from Sealion were the British are launching a counter attack on the German airhead positions north of Dover. Jon |
| GOTHIC LINE MINIATURES | 27 Jun 2009 6:09 a.m. PST |
Tuscaloosa might be a bit sad
a sad trolling right? |