| David Manley | 30 May 2009 12:24 p.m. PST |
An update – after the chat earlier this month regarding 1/800 models of Korean and Japanese naval vessels I've started work on a couple of sets of rules. One is aimed at fleet actions, the second at ship to ship actions. Both are in the "fast play" mold, and are based on previous sets of Ancient and Renaissance rules that I've used before with some success. This will be aslow project to complete as I don't have much time to devote to it at the momet, but I hope to have the first workable draft out in a week or two. |
 Miniatureships  | 30 May 2009 3:23 p.m. PST |
David, I have a few questions about rules for Turtle Ships. Basically, were not all other ships rather useless against Turtle Ships? Would not any set of rules dealing with Turtle ships have really favour them over any other ship? Second, how would one be able to board a turtle ship? I quess I am just curious, because from my understanding is that if would be a very one sided game if done from the historical point. |
Uesugi Kenshin  | 30 May 2009 4:10 p.m. PST |
Admiral Yi lost at least 1 Turtle ship against the japanese. They could be holed by artillery fire or set fire by flaming arrows. They have an opening on the rear of the ship that makes boarding possible, though difficult. Admiral Yi also never had more than about 4 Turtle ships present in any one battle at a time where there were 100's of other ships present. So they were indeed a force to be reckoned with, but only available in tiny numbers. The Panokseons (Battleships) were the real workhorses of the Korean Navy. |
| David Manley | 30 May 2009 10:10 p.m. PST |
Couldn't have put it better myself :) |
| Klebert L Hall | 31 May 2009 7:10 a.m. PST |
Basically, were not all other ships rather useless against Turtle Ships? If they had been as dominant as that, similar designs would have become the mainstay of naval forces in the region for quite some time. It doesn't seem to have happened, so they must've had some weaknesses.
-Kle. |
| Big Martin | 01 Jun 2009 5:04 a.m. PST |
As Uesugi Kenshin says, their main weakness is that there were never enough of them to totally dominate. |
| nycjadie | 01 Jun 2009 11:11 a.m. PST |
They must have been extremely costly to build. The amount of iron used to create the upper deck must have been very heavy as well. |
| Uesugi Kenshin | 01 Jun 2009 2:20 p.m. PST |
Indeed, in Admiral Yi's memorials to the Korean Court he often mentions sending a gift of iron to various generals to, ostensibly be used in weapon manufacturing. It was obviously a highly prized commodity. |
| CorpCommander | 05 Jun 2009 1:29 p.m. PST |
I am really looking forward to this! |
| Uesugi Kenshin | 05 Jun 2009 4:00 p.m. PST |
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