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Defiant29 May 2009 2:13 a.m. PST

Hi all,

I have updated my blog to show a couple more armies I have painted up, not everything is shown but I do intend to add to the posts as I go.

davout.blogspot.com


Regards,
Shane

Theword29 May 2009 2:54 a.m. PST

Aren't your figures and set up just a visual feast Shane!

As always, very nice.

TW

Gunner Dunbar29 May 2009 3:09 a.m. PST

Hi Shane

Very nice figs, how do you get such fine black lining on everything, mine usually ends up a little blurred, your whites are very white, how many coats do you do? the Carabiniers are very good. Cheers from the central coast N.S.W, go the blues :)

EagleSixFive29 May 2009 5:18 a.m. PST

Hey Gunner, I'm at Newcastle if you want to arrange a game anytime.

Defiant29 May 2009 10:56 a.m. PST

G'day Dunbar and all,

The Maroons will smash you guys into the park for a 4t consecutive year for sure. For those that do not understand we are talking about the Australian "State of Origin" Rugby League foot ball matches between our States, Queensland and New South Wales. We in Queensland have won the last three years in a row and are about to win a 4th series for the first time…

bigpondvideo.com/nrl/152631
fogs.com.au


P.S. thanks for the comments about my figures; I enjoy blogging and putting up pictures of my work. As for the black, I do not paint on black lines at all, I actually paint the other colours so that they do not touch and leave a fine line of black undercoat (base coat) between them. This gives the illusion you are seeing.

As for the colours and number of coats I paint on it might shock you to learn I only paint one single coat even for the White. The trick I use is not to brush stroke the colour on but to dab the colour on in one single coat thickly. The effect makes the colour seem full and not like whitewash as you can see in some painted figures. It is slow and tedious at times but work it to avoid brush strokes and that milky look you often see.

Regards,
Shane

Maxshadow29 May 2009 3:24 p.m. PST

Nice Shane.

nsolomon9929 May 2009 3:45 p.m. PST

They look great Shane. Those 1806 Prussians by AB are just wonderful figures aren't they – I have a load of them being painted by Fernando at the moment. The early Prussian Army is a sight to behold once you add all the flags, spectacular cavalry regiments, officers and guns. While I'm waiting for the Prussians I'm busy re-basing (for the last time) my French, Austrians, etc. Looking forward to the Lardies releasing LFS III in September. I used to play massively detailed rules like yours Shane – Empire, Valmy to Waterloo – but found, as a lone gamer, I just dont have the time anymore so for me LFS is a good compromise.

Gunner Dunbar and EagleSixFive I'm down the road from you guys near Castle Hill. But all my stuff is being re-based at the moment.

trailape29 May 2009 4:55 p.m. PST

Makes a Guy want to move to Gosford!
I live in Broadford VIC, but visit Gosford 2 or 3 times a yaer, (the in-laws live there).
Next time I head that way I'll need to arrange a game.
Gunner Dunbar is basing for DBN I believe, (but using 25mm scale bases).
Nsolomon99, what system are you basing to? All my stuff is based for AoE.

Defiant29 May 2009 7:52 p.m. PST

I have a load of them being painted by Fernando at the moment.

Hi solomon, I was thinking to use Fernando also to paint up many of my own troops I need done. I have little time for painting en masse so when you get yours done could you post up pictures and let us all know how well the sale went and your experience with them?

The early Prussian Army is a sight to behold once you add all the flags, spectacular cavalry regiments, officers and guns. While

I agree, this army is much over looked by many gamers because is was defeated so badly and quickly. However, if you study the campaign you will see they were mostly defeated before they fired their first shots. If used well this army could really give the gamer a great experience using it. They are very colourfull and eye catching to see deployed for battle.

I used to play massively detailed rules like yours Shane – Empire, Valmy to Waterloo – but found, as a lone gamer, I just dont have the time anymore so for me LFS is a good compromise.

It is a pitty Australia is such a massive spread out country, I feel for you mate, it must be hard not having people around locally to game with. It does seem that a couple of others here live close to you so maybe you guys should get together, even if it is just 2-3 times a year. If you ever come to Brisbane you are very welcome to contact us and sit in on our games no problem at all.


Regards,
Shane

Rob UK30 May 2009 2:29 a.m. PST

Excellent site and some cracking figures you have

hussarbob1746.webs.com

Henry Martini30 May 2009 5:23 a.m. PST

Napoleonics may not be my 'thing' particularly, but I know a good paint job when I see it – excellent work!

Wheldrake30 May 2009 11:36 a.m. PST

Mon dieu! Quel excellent travail de détail sur des 15mm!

Kudos to you Shane, where do you find the time???

Cheers, --- Wheldrake (aka Phil in Phrance)

Widowson30 May 2009 7:54 p.m. PST

Shane,

Great stuff as usual. I must ask, however, about the combined voltigeurs unit. I agree that light infantry often fought formed, but the figures pictured are line infantry voltigeur companies. These would only be found combined in a formed unit as part of, say, Oudinot's grenadier division. But Oudinot's boys were combined grenadiers, voltigeurs, carabiniers, and legere voltigeurs--not all the same uniforms at all.

I feel the need to point this out because your blog is so cool and your paint jobs so excellent that I felt the need to find fault!

I wish I knew how to set up a blog. Any tips?

Bill

Defiant30 May 2009 10:26 p.m. PST

Hi Widowson,

Glad you pointed that out, it is a question I have also asked myself at times as have others here. The reason I did this was so that I could form Voltiguers up into Attack columns for assaulting built up areas in the attack. All of my Voltiguers are always to be found on Skirmish bases so when the need occurs to form up for an assault I find myself having to use ring in's such as fusilier figures for the assault, now I do not need to. Once the assault is done and I own the built-up area they spread out in the area and revert back to their normal functions.

Also, yes the Voltiguers formed up and only part of the Elite btlns so when I use them I simply take out some of the formed voltiguer figures and replace them with companies of Grenadiers and I have my Elite btlns for his Division. I get the best of both worlds now to utilize these troops in.

As for blogging, I had to learn it all myself from scratch, my only advice to you is to do a great deal of trial and error…

Regards,
Shane

Widowson31 May 2009 1:34 a.m. PST

Shane,

Your voltigeur argument makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I would suggest that you build a unit of light (legere) infantry in formed units for such duties.

You know, every time I see your stuff or review your rules, I wish we lived next door to each other so I could come over and we could discuss, play, and defenestrate each other.

Any chance you might wander over to San Francisco some day? I'm pretty sure that if I ever got to Australia, my wife would never put up with me taking time for wargaming or defenestration, either.

Pity, that.

Best,

Bill

Widowson31 May 2009 1:39 a.m. PST

Shane,

If you based your figures differently, on company bases (as it looks like you already do), you could spread them out for skirmishing and then push them together for formed actions. did you never do that?

Bill

If I might make a suggestion, you could make cardboard "skirmish" move stands of skirmish width that you could place your voltigeurs on which would allow the same figure groupings to do double duty when required. I have worked with this before, quite successfully.

Widowson31 May 2009 1:45 a.m. PST

Shane,

Sorry for the delay, but I figured out your problem.

Base all your voltigeurs and light infantry on the same company bases you do for your fusiliers. When you want them to skirmish, place them on the wider, cardboard bases reflective of the additional frontage.

When you want them formed up, just discard the skirmish bases and put them in formation with their parent units.

My local pals and I did this when playing Empire III and it worked very well--unlike the rest of Empire and the campaign scenario in general--but thats a different story.

Defiant31 May 2009 1:59 a.m. PST

Hi Bill,

Thank you for your advice, I should have said Chasseurs as well as fusiliers. I have found myself several times with Voltiguers companies in skirmish order and have had to use other figures to represent the Voltiguers in formed order. If you check the orbats for the Elite Grenadier division you will note that there were several btlns amongst this elite formation completely made up of Voltiguers:

On 1 June 1807 the division contained:
1st Brigade: General de brigade Ruffin
1st Regiment
1st Battalion: Chef de bataillon Launier
Staff (5/9)
1st Co. (3/65) Carabiniers 6th Legere
2nd Co. (3/72) Carabiniers 7th Legere
3rd Co. (3/73) Carabiniers 9th Legere
4th Co. (3/60) Carabiniers 16th Legere
5th Co. (3/66) Carabiniers 25th Legere
6th Co. (3/73) Carabiniers 27th Legere
2nd Battalion: Chef de bataillon Broyer
1st Co. (3/89) Voltigeurs 6th Legere
2nd Co. (3/69) Voltigeurs 7th Legere
3rd Co. (3/72) Voltigeurs 9th Legere
4th Co. (3/73) Voltigeurs 16th Legere
5th Co. (3/52) Voltigeurs 25th Legere
6th Co. (3/76) Voltigeurs 27th Legere
2nd Regiment
3rd Battalion: Chef de bataillon Fondousse
Staff (5/1)
1st Co. (3/65) Grenadiers 8th Line
2nd Co. (3/65) Grenadiers 30th Line
3rd Co. (3/88) Grenadiers 33rd Line
4th Co. (2/75) Grenadiers 51st Line
5th Co. (3/56) Grenadiers 95th Line
6th Co. (3/49) Grenadiers 96th Line
4th Battalion: Chef de bataillon Chabert
1st Co. (3/84) Voltigeurs 8th Line
2nd Co. (3/58) Voltigeurs 30th Line
3rd Co. (3/77) Voltigeurs 33rd Line
4th Co. (2/61) Voltigeurs 51st Line
5th Co. (3/75) Voltigeurs 95th Line
6th Co. (3/55) Voltigeurs 96th Line
2nd Brigade: General de brigade Conroux
3rd Regiment
5th Battalion: Chef de bataillon Arnauld
Staff (6/0)
1st Co. (2/75) Carabiniers 10th Legere
2nd Co. (2/66) Carabiniers 17th Legere
3rd Co. (3/55) Carabiniers 21st Legere
4th Co. (3/74) Carabiniers 24th Legere
5th Co. (2/45) Carabiniers 26th Legere
6th Co. (3/63) Carabiniers 28th Legere
6th Battalion: Chef de bataillon Franchot
1st Co. (3/61) Voltigeurs 10th Legere
2nd Co. (2/61) Voltigeurs 17th Legere
3rd Co. (3/49) Voltigeurs 21st Legere
4th Co. (3/67) Voltigeurs 24th Legere
5th Co. (3/73) Voltigeurs 26th Legere
6th Co. (2/59) Voltigeurs 28th Legere
4th Regiment
7th Battalion: Chef de bataillon Coquereau
Staff (5/0)
1st Co. (3/81) Grenadiers 4th Line
2nd Co. (3/66) Grenadiers 18th Line
3rd Co. (3/75) Grenadiers 34th Line
4th Co. (3/68) Grenadiers 40th Line
5th Co. (2/51) Grenadiers 64th Line
6th Co. (2/54) Grenadiers 88th Line
8th Battalion: Chef de bataillon Monnet
1st Co. (1/58) Voltigeurs 4th Line
2nd Co. (3/69) Voltigeurs 18th Line
3rd Co. (3/73) Voltigeurs 34th Line
4th Co. (3/76) Voltigeurs 40th Line
5th Co. (3/56) Voltigeurs 64th Line
6th Co. (3/72) Voltigeurs 88th Line
3rd Brigade: General de brigade Barry
5th Regiment
9th Battalion: Chef de bataillon Dauger
Staff (6/0)
1st Co. (2/74) Grenadiers 27th Line
2nd Co. (3/70) Grenadiers 39th Line
3rd Co. (3/64) Grenadiers 45th Line
4th Co. (3/66) Grenadiers 59th Line
5th Co. (3/51) Grenadiers 69th Line
6th Co. (3/78) Grenadiers 70th Line
10th Battalion: Chef de bataillon Comminet
1st Co. (3/73) Voltigeurs 27th Line
2nd Co. (2/59) Voltigeurs 39th Line
3rd Co. (3/78) Voltigeurs 45th Line
4th Co. (3/64) Voltigeurs 59th Line
5th Co. (3/66) Voltigeurs 69th Line
6th Co. (3/90) Voltigeurs 70th Line
6th Regiment
11th Battalion: Chef de bataillon Vaugrignaude
Staff (5/8)
1st Co. (3/61) Grenadiers 24th Line
2nd Co. (3/83) Grenadiers 44th Line
3rd Co. (3/61) Grenadiers 54th Line
4th Co. (3/84) Grenadiers 63rd Line
5th Co. (3/61) Grenadiers 94th Line
6th Co. (3/68) Grenadiers 105th Line
12th Battalion: Chef de bataillon Boidot
1st Co. (3/60) Voltigeurs 24th Line
2nd Co. (3/71) Voltigeurs 44th Line
3rd Co. (3/67) Voltigeurs 54th Line
4th Co. (2/76) Voltigeurs 63rd Line
5th Co. (3/77) Voltigeurs 94th Line
6th Co. (3/65) Voltigeurs 105th Line
4th Brigade: General de brigade Albert
7th Regiment
13th Battalion: Chef de bataillon Cornebize
Staff (5/1)
1st Co. (3/73) Carabiniers 25th Legere
2nd Co. (3/78) Carabiniers 22nd Line
3rd Co. (3/63) Grenadiers 32nd Line
4th Co. (3/60) Grenadiers 57th Line
5th Co. (3/65) Grenadiers 65th Line
6th Co. (-)
14th Battalion: Chef de bataillon Boulon
1st Co. (2/104) Voltigeurs 22nd Line
2nd Co. (2/46) Voltigeurs 32nd Line
3rd Co. (3/61) Voltigeurs 57th Line
4th Co. (3/99) Voltigeurs 65th Line
5th Co. (-)
6th Co. (-)
8th Regiment
15th Battalion: Chef de bataillon Jouan
1st Co. (3/80) Grenadiers 3rd Line
2nd Co. (1/71) Grenadiers 61st Line
3rd Co. (1/70) Grenadiers 85th Line
4th Co. (1/70) Grenadiers 111th Line
5th Co. (-)
6th Co. (-)
16th Battalion:
1st Co. (3/96) Voltigeurs 3rd Line
2nd Co. (2/85) Voltigeurs 61st Line
3rd Co. (3/73) Voltigeurs 85th Line
4th Co. (2/82) Voltigeurs 111th Line
5th Co. (-)
6th Co. (-)
Artillery
Det 2/1st Foot Artillery (1/41)
4/,5/3rd Horse Artillery (5/145)
1st & 4th Artillery Artisan Companies (0/9)
Det. 2/5th (bis) Train Battalion (1/60)
Det. 1/,2/8th (bis) Train Battalion (3/187)
Engineers
1/5th Sapper Battalion (0/35)

So armed with this information is why I vidicated the idea of painting them up in formed order for column assaults.

As for playing, yes it is a pitty we could probably have a great time, I relish talking, getting to know and playing with others just as enthusiastic and willing to delve deeply into a subject as I am. And if we knew each other long enough we would probably end up defenstrating each other hehe

As for visiting the USA, my wife and I made plans to head to Disnyland this year but have had to put that on hold due to financial restrictions but one day I will for sure head off to the West coast for sure.

Also, I have said this before, if you have never been to Australia think about it, this place is the most laid back friendly part of the world there is, sand, surf, beautiful women, beaches, great scenary and much more to offer than you could imagine. I live on the South side of the City of Brisbane which is close to the city. It is about a 2 hour drive to the North coast but within 30mins drive of the Gold Coast, on the weekends if we decide to go away it is often hard to decide which way to go at times. There is simply so much here on offer, to see and do.

I am sure you could throw a few travel brochures in front of the wife and butter her up a little ;-p

Regards,
Shane

Defiant31 May 2009 2:02 a.m. PST

ahh yeah, the guys in my group who also play Empire do this, in our own games if the light companies are not based in skirmish formation we do spread the figures out. In my own situation I have the opposite problem, I based "ALL" my light troops on skirmish bases so you can understand my problem and why I did the Voltiguer btln… heheh

Personal logo timurilank Supporting Member of TMP31 May 2009 3:34 p.m. PST

Shane,

Perhaps, half the unit in close formation, the remainder in skirmish might be an option. The reasoning being, the close formation half could support or "feed" the skirmish line.

In column assault, figures set on skirmish bases are lined up behind the close formation troops.

I have done this for my Grenzers (SYW) and it works well.
Cheers,
Robert
18thcenturysojourn.blogspot.com

Defiant31 May 2009 6:45 p.m. PST

aye, good idea,

I usually do this with my Legere regiments as do my adversaries when using their own Light regiments but sometimes I am caught in an area with nothing but Voltiguers so having the formed btln helps when I need it. Speaking of Grenzers, I want to start painting several btlns of them.

Regards,
Shane

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